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Highway_Star
25th Jan 2008, 19:20
I nearly saw an unfortunate incident today, I say nearly because my intervention as an 'old hand' made it no more than a humiliating incident for the individual concerned.
Just served to re-affirm my long held belief that repeating shotguns have no place in the field, and to be honest, no place on the clay ground either. Farmer out twatting rabbits perhaps, but definitely NOT the weapon of a gentleman.

In fact when I have my way, everything except side by side boxlock non-ejectors will be frowned upon in respectable circles.... :p

Anyway, it prompted my memory of Mark Beaufoy's poem, 'A Father's Advice'

If a sportsman true you’d be
Listen carefully to me. . .

Never, never let your gun
Pointed be at anyone.
That it may unloaded be
Matters not the least to me.

When a hedge or fence you cross
Though of time it cause a loss
From your gun the cartridge take
For the greater safety’s sake.

If twixt you and neighbouring gun
Bird shall fly or beast may run
Let this maxim ere be thine
“Follow not across the line.”

Stops and beaters oft unseen
Lurk behind some leafy screen.
Calm and steady always be
“Never shoot where you can’t see.”

You may kill or you may miss
But at all times think this:
“All the pheasants ever bred
Won’t repay for one man dead.”

Dave-H
25th Jan 2008, 19:31
Got to agree. :(
Semi's and pumps are a good pest control tool but have no place on clay grounds or driven days/shoots.
In the hands of the lesser experienced guy they are an accident waiting to happen.

I won't shoot with anyone that is using one!

goldypurple
26th Jan 2008, 18:46
I tend to disagree with what you say.

i agree that they should not be used on a traditional shooting game day or rough shooting. As you cant tell if loaded etc.

On clay's i think they can be used. autos are a ideal gun to teach new starters with because of the low recoil. so ideal for children or ladies. rather than going for a different gauge.

Auto's in the shooting world have a use but alot of the problem is that the owners of them are un-educated with the use of them and think they can treat it like any other shotgun.

It should be made compulsery to use a breach flag to know they are empty.

steve@offroadin
28th Jan 2008, 12:32
its not the gun that's leathal, its the person holding it.

Nick T
1st Feb 2008, 18:03
its not the gun that's leathal, its the person holding it.

Quite right !. Still, I am wary of people using them on the clay grounds.

hughsurrey
15th Sep 2008, 00:48
The only way you could not see a semi or a pump is "safe" is if the breech is closed which is bad gunmanship, in the same way as a closed SBS or O/U is. I own all four types of gun (SBS, O/U, pump and semi) and handle them in the same safe manner as I do my rifles (breech open until the gun is pointing at a target I intend to shoot).

A pump or semi is a cheap way of getting involved in our sport (whether clay or rough) and may be owned by someone who is not fortunate enough to own a "gun for each season" and I feel that to fuel a prejudice against them is bad form.

andrew9690
16th Sep 2008, 20:37
definetly more person than gun you can get a Napier Safety Flag
http://www.countrysupplies.com/item.asp?i=1381 put in breech and it signifys its safe thats what i use and never have any problems on clay grounds easy and cheap and therefore accidents are reduced and people feel safer

purp751
18th Sep 2008, 19:40
I used to have a Browning auto 5 which the trigger sear wore out in and it went fully automatic that was a frightening expereince to say the least, not had another auto since sticking to two barrels now lol