Chasing Rabbits

[sniff my diff]

Hi just a question regarding my dog who loves to chase Rabbits.

I have a 5yr old Doberman who loves nothing better than chasing rabbits whether its a single one or loads of them ,my question is can i get reprted to the police or who ever some sado wants to as someone said i was being cruel letting her chase them ,she has never caught one infact when she went running up to one and it didnt move as it had mixy she didnt know what to do as it wasnt playing the normal game,i did get a big log and put the poor bunny out of its missery,i did say to the sado that he would be more upset if i was out here shooting them he is obviously a fluffy bunny lover . I was thinking of getting a dog that is able to catch them so i can have some nice bunny pies ;)using some of the recipes on this site .
Also a question on behalf of my wife , she was driving through a wooded area the other night and saw a dead deer at side of the road ,a car ahead of her was just turning round and looked to have some damage to the front so it may have only just happened,she wants to know (and me 2) do you have to report hitting a deer and if you hit one and its not killed outright who do u phone ? police or vet or both.
Cheers for any replies:D

[seriesowner]

do you have to report hitting a deer and if you hit one and its not killed outright who do u phone ? police or vet or both.

Well if it was me, and it was dark, and it wasn't dead, I would put it out of its misery and load it in the back of the car. Venison steaks anyone?
In France you HAVE to report it to the police.
They come along, load it in the back of the Gendermerie van and all the police officers have venison for dinner.

[Dave_243]

do you have to report hitting a deer and if you hit one and its not killed outright who do u phone ? police or vet or both.
Cheers for any replies:D

You can report it to the local police and they have a list of people who they can get to deal with it.

[101_nut]

I believe the law on 'hunting with dogs' refers to more than one dog not Tinkerbell chasing a mouse. You could get done if it's private land by the land owner or if on the highway for not keeping the dog under control but otherwise get the sado's bobble hat, let the dog have a really good sniff then use the command 'fetch!' ... :D

As for the deer, I agree with the earlier poster that venison is lovely.

AndyG

[goldypurple]

hi

if deer isnt dead and and you have a gun in car dispatch it yourself or failing that i would contact local forestry commission who the police will send out eventually.

[sniff my diff]

Thanks for replies, i did say to my misses that she should have phoned me and i would have come and collected the deer but she was upset that i would have even thought about eating bambi!!! ,think she is just worried about hitting one as she uses this road a lot to go between mk and northampton ,think i will just follow behind in landy and collect the kill when shes not looking:D

[toppa]

in Czech last week a car had hit a wild pig, a VERY large wild pig infact, as we came past the cop shot it, and can gurantee where that ended up!!!

Agree, venison tast good;)



Cheers

[TEMPL4R]

Rabbits are OK, Hares are a no no, that's coursing.

Can your dog tell the difference though....?

Chris

[sniff my diff]

Having watched a hare the other week running across a farmers field i can be 100% sure that she wouldnt even see it ,might get a wiff of the scent but that would be it,prob think what the .... was that:eek:

[ianhl]

my greyhound (see left) is 10 yrs old and i am always surprised at how fast he is when he see's a rabbit or a hare. i cant stop him or catch him and would feel very hard done by if i was prosecuted every time he caught a rabbit...its his nature to chase.
i wouldnt worry about the dog/rabbit issue...

[TEMPL4R]

Hares are Game, Rabbits are Vermin. That's the difference in law, but a dog doesn't know that, why should it?

Chris

[sniff my diff]

i wouldnt worry about the dog/rabbit issue...

Not really worried about it ,just wanted to know where i stand when some sado wearing red socks and a 25yr old canvas ruck sack on his back starts ranting ,my problem is i am likely to tell him/her to .... off but as i now know that rabbits are classed as vermin then i can tell him where to go and tell him they are vermin and would he complain if it was a Rat!! (dont know why i never knew they are vermin,suppose i not thought about it before):confused: Maybe now i will train her to really go for it and kill as many as she can get :eek::eek: LOL

[TEMPL4R]

Pigeons are vermin as well, but not in London, they are Cliff or Rock Doves or summat ( what are they, anyone know?)

Chris

[Dave-H]

You can report it to the local police and they have a list of people who they can get to deal with it.

As he said, people like me :)

hi

if deer isnt dead and and you have a gun in car dispatch it yourself .
Not without offical permision you cant. "Discharging a firearm in a public place" [Roads are public] You can only shoot it if summoned by the police to do so
Rabbits are OK, Hares are a no no, that's coursing.

Chris
As Chris says. Don't worry - it is still legal to use dogs to hunt Rats and Rabbits, along with underground for flushing [not that yours will do that] :D

Pigeons are vermin as well, but not in London, they are Cliff or Rock Doves or summat ( what are they, anyone know?)

Chris

A descendant of the rock dove, but they are in fact Feral Pigeon... also classed as vermin

[TEMPL4R]

Isn't there a by law in London that you can't kill the pigeons? or is it just Trafalgar Square?

Chris

[Dave-H]

Isn't there a by law in London that you can't kill the pigeons? or is it just Trafalgar Square?

Chris

You can't kill them anywhere without permission... and then only to comply with the terms on the General licence [Public health being the main reason with Feral Pigeon]

[sniff my diff]

[quote=Dave-H;1016191] along with underground for flushing [not that yours will do that] :D

Think she thinks she can fit down the warren as sometimes all you can see is this brown hind quarters sticking in the air:D:eek:

[Roz]

I Know there are differences in the laws between Scotland and England, but when the law was passed here, it was classed as the "protection of wild mammals" bill, meaning it makes no difference whether it is game or vermin your dog is chasing, you're breaking the law by allowing it.
Unless you are using the dog to flush the quarry from cover to be shot.

If you hit a Deer on the road, report it to the police, whether you think it's dead or not, it will need dealt with. I'm on the police list to deal with any casualties locally, and it's very rare that a deer is killed instantly in a collision.

[Dave-H]

I Know there are differences in the laws between Scotland and England, but when the law was passed here, it was classed as the "protection of wild mammals" bill, meaning it makes no difference whether it is game or vermin your dog is chasing, you're breaking the law by allowing it.
Unless you are using the dog to flush the quarry from cover to be shot.

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In England there are exemptions from the act allowing the use of dogs [normally, but not exclusively, terriers] for hunting both Rats and Rabbits.

[Roz]

In England there are exemptions from the act allowing the use of dogs [normally, but not exclusively, terriers] for hunting both Rats and Rabbits.


Thought there might be something like that!
Cheers for clearing that up Dave!

[Dave-H]

Thought there might be something like that!
Cheers for clearing that up Dave!


Glad i don't live in Scotland... Sunday mornings would be boring ;)

[Roz]

There are ways around it! ;)

As long as you put measures in place to ensure the quarry is shot, all is perfectly legal, the foxhunt is a prime example, because most hunts follow a predictable path, it is easy to site waiting guns in the correct places.
a full pack of hounds can be legally used to flush the fox to those waiting guns.....
:D:D:D

[mackinnon]

I Know there are differences in the laws between Scotland and England, but when the law was passed here, it was classed as the "protection of wild mammals" bill, meaning it makes no difference whether it is game or vermin your dog is chasing, you're breaking the law by allowing it.
Unless you are using the dog to flush the quarry from cover to be shot.



How do they expect you to stop a dog acting on his instincts my dogs get a few rabbits each week and once they spot one theirs no stopping them.

[ninja warrior]

If you see a dead deer on the side of the road is it not classed as road kill, where upon you can stop and dispose of said meal:D, as with the likes of rabbit and pheasant if not in a bad state and freshly killed.

[Roz]

How do they expect you to stop a dog acting on his instincts my dogs get a few rabbits each week and once they spot one theirs no stopping them.

Yep exactly.... in the words of someone somewhere... "then the law sir, is an ass......"

The only answer really, if your dogs aren't trained to a level where you can call them off, you'd need to keep them on a lead.......:(:(:(:(

[secretsquirrel]

The 2004 hunting act made it illegal to hunt pretty well everything with dogs, the exception being rabbits and rats which you can still legally take with a dog.
Why it is less cruel to kill these species than any other is beyond most sensible people but there you are.
A pack of hounds/dogs will make sure and certain that the end is relatively quick if a little messy, the other options available being less certain.
Regarding the deer, in the boot quick as long as it hasn't been too badly knocked. If its inards have burst in the impact forget it, it's more trouble than enough and the meat will probhably be tainted, been there & done it.
If you do get a good one the fillet of a Muntjac is superb and melts in the mouth.
In desperate circumstances with (small) wounded deer such as the Muntjac it is possible to finish the job by breaking its neck using a method simmilar to that used on a rabbit but if you're not sure what you're doing, probhably best ring the police.
It gives the firearms unit some practice.

Mr Secret Squirel

[sniff my diff]

The only answer really, if your dogs aren't trained to a level where you can call them off, you'd need to keep them on a lead.......:(:(:(:([/quote]

She is well trained and knows whos boss(you have to be boss with a doberman otherwise they will ruin your life and house,just ask my friend who has a brother from same litter and never trained him properly,the ****** rules the roost,) she will stop when called but as she is not quick enough to catch one its damn good exercise for her:D:D:D