Discovery wont move!

[sextonsdisco]

Hi. I need some help diagnosing a problem.
I,ve done a forum search but still not sure.
Yesterday, after running dogs in the woods, I went to drive off and the disco did not move at all, just reved up. Its a 1998 300tdi, (manual).
I had engin running,
In gear with handbrake off,
Lifted clutch and no movement not even a shudder or squeel. It felt as though i was in neutral.
I drove to the woods no problem, in fact the discos been drivin fine for months with no out of place sounds or vibrations so this problem came as bit of a shock.
With the engin running I can select every gear without the clutch pedel being depressed, but there is no hint of drive. Clutch fluid level is fine.
I know cack all about clutches, transmissions etc so i'm stumped, but i would like to try to fix the problem my self.
Any help on this matter would be appreciated .

Oh also, mechanically the disco is the worst vehical i've ever owned. Somethings allways wrong, leaks, rust, electric windows etc so WHY do i absolutly love it?

[alex_p]

Have you checked if the transfer box has popped into neutral? :)

[sextonsdisco]

Yeah, I did and it was in hi. But to make sure i put it into low and tried to move, then into hi again with diff on and again with diff off made no difference. Shame really as that would have been an easier fix.

[sniff my diff]

not gonna be much help here but i would get some good seat covers for the jag and put the dogs in that and leave the disco to sit and rust:eek::eek:

But i am sure someone who is sensible and sober will come up with a proper answer;)

Landies, we love em when they work and give us pleasure, and still love em when the dont wanna go anywhere....;)

[TEMPL4R]

When you let the clutch out, can you hear the gearbox shafts turning?

When you engage diff lock, it is sprung loaded, so you need to let the dog teeth find each other, use low range on tick over.

If you can get underneath, check if either prop turns more than a bit of backlash. ( get someone to try and drive it and see if a shaft is spinning) that will point to a CV or halfshaft problem.

Are the gears where they should be and is the stick loose?

Did it initially try to move then stop? That could be the centre of the clutch plate breaking out of the hub.

Try doing those things and pinpoint where the drive gets to and then stops.

Chris

[sextonsdisco]

Did it initially try to move then stop? That could be the centre of the clutch plate breaking out of the hub.



Chris

The first time I tried to drive off (I was reversing) the disco moved slightly but not proportionaly to the revs and clutch position, then it did just stop. The movement was at best about a foot, I just thought i was being a pleb and not driving properly so tried again and this time no movement at all.
If it is the clutch plate breaking I assume this is then a new clutch. Would this be too much for the beginner home mechanic?

I will try the other tips you gave me in a few days (away with work), and i'm sure I will have some more questions then.

Thanks again for your help. (who would have thought that forums were usefull!)

[sextonsdisco]

[quote=sniff my diff;1067730]not gonna be much help here but i would get some good seat covers for the jag and put the dogs in that and leave the disco to sit and rust:eek::eek:

My wife will have none of that, the jag is for her, her cd's and bloody hairbrushes and all of the other crap women leave in cars. As for letting the disco sit and rust, well that was her idea as well.

Thanks for the advice it may yet come in usefull.

[TEMPL4R]

Every so often, the gearbox output shaft strips the splines in the transfer box input gear, that was on older models though. You get a slight ratcheting sound.

Chris

[sextonsdisco]

When you let the clutch out, can you hear the gearbox shafts turning?

When you engage diff lock, it is sprung loaded, so you need to let the dog teeth find each other, use low range on tick over.

If you can get underneath, check if either prop turns more than a bit of backlash. ( get someone to try and drive it and see if a shaft is spinning) that will point to a CV or halfshaft problem.

Are the gears where they should be and is the stick loose?

Did it initially try to move then stop? That could be the centre of the clutch plate breaking out of the hub.

Try doing those things and pinpoint where the drive gets to and then stops.

Chris

When the clutch is let out I cant hear anything, this could however be because im unsure what im listening for.
Tried the diff and ratios to no avail engin just ticks over, no sign of any drive.
Both prop shafts move a little but that is it, when engin off. With engin on and in first gear with clutch up both props do not turn at all. So im assuming the fault lies before the drive to the props.
All gears seem to be where they should and the stick is not loose. You can select every gear with clutch up, engin running with no resistance at all.
Does this look like a problem with clutch, tx box etc?
cheers

[TEMPL4R]

If the engine is running and you can select gears, I'd go for the centre gone in the clutch centre plate.

Chris

[littlelegs]

Hi. I need some help diagnosing a problem.
I,ve done a forum search but still not sure.
Yesterday, after running dogs in the woods, I went to drive off and the disco did not move at all, just reved up. Its a 1998 300tdi, (manual).
I had engin running,
In gear with handbrake off,
Lifted clutch and no movement not even a shudder or squeel. It felt as though i was in neutral.
I drove to the woods no problem, in fact the discos been drivin fine for months with no out of place sounds or vibrations so this problem came as bit of a shock.
With the engin running I can select every gear without the clutch pedel being depressed, but there is no hint of drive. Clutch fluid level is fine.
I know cack all about clutches, transmissions etc so i'm stumped, but i would like to try to fix the problem my self.
Any help on this matter would be appreciated .

Oh also, mechanically the disco is the worst vehical i've ever owned. Somethings allways wrong, leaks, rust, electric windows etc so WHY do i absolutly love it?

Are there any bricks under the axles and big spaces where you would expect to see wheels? :D Sorry, couldn't think of anything sensible to add other than perhaps the gears are not actually selecting.

[nomoreleafs]

Are there any bricks under the axles and big spaces where you would expect to see wheels? :D Sorry, couldn't think of anything sensible to add other than perhaps the gears are not actually selecting.

Heard something similar to that but with a motorbike.Biker riding down the road comes across a chain in the middle of the road,thinks nothing of it until round the next bend is a bloke sat on a bike trying gears and clutch but going nowhere fast.:eek:.T'is true I tell y'a.

[recneps]

We had something similar to this happen, but it wasnt on the landrover - was with a Mercedes Vito. Clutch just died completely, turned out all it was was a loose bolt from where the garage had done a repair and not put it back together properly so something had come lose. Dont know whether that could be the case here tho?