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[stephs disco]

hi every one . I have a 200 tdi disco , the problem is over the past couple of days on making a sharp right turn theres a rumbling knocking sound from the left front wheel and the steering seems to take on a mind of its own for a few feet till i,m back on the straight then it seems fine , it actually feels as if something is loose , on inspecting the swivel ball it appears to be scored bout midway , could the swivel joint have this affect ,or could it be something else ( i have replaced all the track rod ends etc ) any info would be excellent thanks

[flatmajor]

on this subject, does it make (as my wife would call it) a lenghy creak when you reverse when steering?

[bilge rat]

you could check to see iff there is any play in the swivell brgs , or even wheel bearing . but could be the c.v breaking up ...alan....

[stephs disco]

thanks guys , no it dont make a long creaking noise its deffo a rumbley clicky sound its only on a full right lock never on a left full lock , i,m still using the disco but am wary bout the problem , hoping the wheel wont sheer off ??

[stephs disco]

actually flat major it does make a creaking groaning sound when steering but only noticeable when stationary ,dont know if both sounds are connected its always groaned since i got the disco .The only ball joint i did't change was the one at the front thats angled from the steering box to the left front wheel it was ok . Even though she has some faults i love (dolly) best car i,v ever had cheers

[thebiglad]

actually flat major it does make a creaking groaning sound when steering but only noticeable when stationary ,dont know if both sounds are connected its always groaned since i got the disco .The only ball joint i did't change was the one at the front thats angled from the steering box to the left front wheel it was ok . Even though she has some faults i love (dolly) best car i,v ever had cheers

I would be checking for play in the front wheels. To do this you need to jack up each side in turn so the you can get a front wheel off the ground.

Then with the help of an assistant, grab the tyre at 3 & 9'o clock and check for play in the bearing, then ask the assistant to press and hold the footbrake while you test again. If there is play whilst the brake is on it's likely to be a worn wheel bearing.

Next you grab the tyre at 12 & 6 'o clock and check for play. If there is any it will be in the swivel bearings.

Once you have diagnosed where the wear is, purchase new bearings and bob them in.

May sure that you check both front wheels in the same manner.

Cheers
Dave

[stephs disco]

cheers dave will do that will the car be ok to drive till i get it sorted do you think

[Swingletree]

I hope you don't mind Dave

I would be checking for play in the front wheels. To do this you need to jack up each side in turn so the you can get a front wheel off the ground. Then with the help of an assistant, grab the tyre at 3 & 9'o clock and check for play in the bearing, by trying to rock the wheel and pushing and pulling it, then ask the assistant to press and hold the footbrake while you test again. If there is play whilst the brake is on it's likely to be a worn swivel bearing.

Next you grab the tyre at 12 & 6 'o clock and check for play. If there is any it is likely to be in the wheel bearings.

Once you have diagnosed where the wear is, purchase new bearings and bob them in.

May sure that you check both front wheels in the same manner.

Cheers
Dave

Fixed. :rolleyes:

If you're swivel bearings are on the way out, it is more than likely that your swivel seal won't be sealing any more so you'll have grease or oil plastered all over the swivel housing.

If its the wheel bearing, then you may find that whilst driving the first brake application has a lot of pedal travel whereas if you give the pedal another pump it travels a shorter distance before the brakes begin to apply.

[thebiglad]

cheers dave will do that will the car be ok to drive till i get it sorted do you think

I would do the checks before driving it any further - they only take 5 mins to do after all.

When I did this on my wife's Tdi 200 I found that the bottom bearing had completely collapsed - not good !!!! and the wheel was actually floppy - scary :eek::eek:

[stephs disco]

cheers fellas will do will let you's know how it goes thanks again

[bilge rat]

iff its c.v or w/ bearing . both of which could fail at any time iff the noise is as bad as you are describing ..i wouldnt use it

[stephs disco]

hi , just an update i,v been told todat that its the half shaft and that i should change that and the swivel as it's the loss of oil in the swivel thats caused it , my local salvage has 2 in so wednesday i,m getting one .i'm assuming its an easy job ?? once again thanks fellas for the input long live my disco :biggrin:

[Swingletree]

Its an east enough job, depending what you get for replacement. If your gettng the entire swivel casing with C.V joint/halfshaft still in then you could do it in about ten/twenty bolts (about two-three hours) depending on if it needs a new swivel seal.

If your replacing the failed components then it'll take a while longer and be a bit more technical.