Morocco in October for 3 weeks [Archive]

ROB 110 HICAP

28th Jul 2004, 11:53

I've only read his old Adventure Motorcycling handbook. As far as I'm aware the routes on the west coast and south from Tan-tan in to Western Sahara are flat and featureless and a long long drive to Mauritania. But haven't been that far west so can't really say.

If you want the edge of the Sahara then the pistes from Erg Chebbi/Merzougga (dunes) to Zagora across lake Iriki to Tata/Foum-Zguid to Akka are as good as it gets. Any of the pistes that aren't tarmaced that side of the Atlas are great, with a max 170 miles between fuel. A lot of the main pistes have been tarmaced but often you can see the old track alongside so use it.

The mountain pistes around Imilchil are also good. They can lead into Todra and Dades gorges, which are worth a look, although they may well be mostly tarmac too. There is also a good loop to a place called Cathedral Rock (Cathedral-Rocheres on the map) its near the Cascade d'Ouzoud, which are fantastic waterfalls to camp at. The Cathedral rock loop was washed out for 1/4 mile the second time I went and we had to take the dirtbikes on a narrow donkey track by a cliff! I guess that it will be open again now, you can always ask at either end.

If time is tight I would'nt bother with Marrakesh, just check out Fes on the way down for the traditional Morrocan city.

There are many other great places but I can't remember the names. I'll check my old maps if you like.

ivisonm

28th Jul 2004, 16:36

I'm thinking of not doing the first route that is TanTan to Assa which (as you say) is a long drive for somthing that is only Ok - even Chris Scott's book says that particular route can get tiresome. I'm probably going to start the trip in Morocco across the High Atlas rather than going down the west coast - dunno yet.

Do you have pistes of interest marked on your maps? Are you able to give some coords interesting land marks/places to not miss?

I've not done any driving abroad, let alone in Morocco, so any information is always welcome.

Cheers,

Mark

Astbury

28th Jul 2004, 21:15

yeah, we had some grumpy reports about staying or even visiting the coast north of Tan Tan this is why we decided upon the eastern route. 3 weeks are not long enough to go south of Tan Tan and enjoy anything on the way so this was and is our plan for September...

Ferry over to Melilla from Malaga, drive over to Oujda then south to bouarfa, west to Meski then south as far as Erfoud. then things should get interesting with the bad road to Tagounite via Hassi Remlia before onto M'hamid. then off road following the river: Oued Dràa into wards the dried salt lakes and Sahara, but not too close to the border. If you look up images on google for m'hamid you will see what you can expect to drive through that tie in with information from a friend of mine that has not long returned from 7 months in the country filming.

from here we will head north to Zagora, take the trak via Zaouia Tafetchna, east to Nekob track to ikniouln, Todra gorge, back down along the P32 to the Dades gorge through to Imilchil, visit lake Isli then make our way via the tracks over the mountains towards Marrakech.

Depending upon how much time is left over we may visit a beach or keep heading north and stop over at Fes for a night before the final push north for home.

If anyone can give any information about our route please pass it on in the forum

Cheers

C&A

ROB 110 HICAP

29th Jul 2004, 09:31

I've pm you ivisonm.

Looks like a good route Astbury. I have ridden most of it apart from east of Boudnib. When I get back there I want to go more over that way, north of Boudnib, over Jbel Marzimine to Rekkam Plateau. Are you going to do any of that after Bouarfa?

Also how much is the Malaga-Meilla ferry and how long? I did the short Algeciras-Ceuta crossing.

The Cathedral Rock loop that was worth doing, is between Bin-el-Ouidane and Azilal via Zaouia-Ahanesal. You cross the big lake over a suspension bridge and start climbing. The highlight is the stretch called Tizi-n-Illissi. If you go that way definitely stay at the Cascades d'Ouzoud.

Post lots of piccies to make me feel jealous when you return, you lucky sods.

ROB 110 HICAP

29th Jul 2004, 10:33

These guides may be of interest. They seem to have piste guides for 5 regions of Morocco, but sadly in French. Dunno if they contain maps, or just descriptions of routes, which might be tricky if your French isn't up to much.
http://www.bibliomonde.net/pages/fiche-livre.php3?id_ouvrage=160

Astbury

29th Jul 2004, 16:18

I've pm you ivisonm.

Also how much is the Malaga-Meilla ferry and how long? I did the short Algeciras-Ceuta crossing.

The Cathedral Rock loop that was worth doing, is between Bin-el-Ouidane and Azilal via Zaouia-Ahanesal. You cross the big lake over a suspension bridge and start climbing. The highlight is the stretch called Tizi-n-Illissi. If you go that way definitely stay at the Cascades d'Ouzoud.

Post lots of piccies to make me feel jealous when you return, you lucky sods.

The ferry is going to cost around 500 Euro'sand take around 7 hours, were going to use this to get a good rest as we arrive in Meilla late on sunday evening, the 2nd reason we chose Meilla is that we wont have much if any hasstle from hustlers, guides and others when we arrive.

The plan is to go up the the dades and follow the path to Tizi-n-Illissi hope to see both lakes too, dont know if you know but these lakes hold a great love story about the children of two great enemies? then hack on through anything infront of us and down the eastern side of the mountains onto Marra.

Just for interest......

My wife is a Polish girl and so we had to go down to the capitol city of Bern today to get her visa for entry into Morocco. after a bit of searching for the Embassy we found it!!! well if that is what its called. its more like a house with a portacabin on the side! we were gived a very bad photo copy form to fill in while sitting outside on a chair under a make shift plastic roof next to the porta loo's!! a hand full of leaflets thrown around the place next to us.

Then..... The Ambassador himself comes out and asked us to follow him into his Embassy. We enter into his office.... OFFICE?? I thought I had a messy office!!! old very crooked chip board book cases, cardboard file boxes stacked upon each other 10 feet high, a very full ash tray on his desk and behind his little chair that was far too small for a man of his size was a crooked picture of the king of Morocco.
He looked at our application, looked at my wife, looked into her passport, looked back at the application, then my wife, then me, then stamp stamp stamp and a "32 Francs please MISS", (MISS?? its Mrs. Mate!). We handed over the cash and received the change. He then offered his hand to shake and said somthing along the words like " Have very nice travel in Morocco Sir, you have very nice time and welcome again and again"

Quite strange place with a strange ambassador.

but then my french is so bad for all we know we may have just signed up for the french foreign legion :)

This trip is going to be interesting.......

Christopher

ivisonm

29th Jul 2004, 19:33

Thanks for the info Rob - very interesting.

I just know that when I'm waiting to cear customs in Morocco, sweating, my kids moaning about the heat and the severly damaged wallet, I'm going to think 'What the bloody hell am I doing here!'. :bigwave:

But after getting through customs, I'm sure it will be all worth it.

Chris, it's a pity that I can't shift my hols to go with you, as I'm probably going to be very close to the route you are doing.

Did you find out where the picture that you posted was located? Looks like it should be a film location!

I just hope that the misses brushes up on her french as mine is almost no-existant!

When you get invited in for a cuppa, would offering a gift of something be considered normal, or could it be seen as an insult?

Cheers,

Mark

ROB 110 HICAP

30th Jul 2004, 09:19

Astbury, your ambassadors residence is a true taste of what is to come! On one of the trips one of the bikes hit a kid, so we had to do the official stuff. They love petty burocracy, but just step back and letthem do their thing, rushing makes them slower.

On the first trip I put a rock through the sump of my bike and a friend smashed his clutch cover to pieces. Anyway we thought we were going to have to leave our bikes in Morocco and fly home, which obviously f*cked up our temporary vehicle import stuff. Trip to the local Police station to try and explain situation wasn't easy. Especially as the station had grease marks all over the walls where the occupants were sweating and the occasional blood stain.

Thank god for gaffer tape and chemical metal repairs!

I think the photo is definitely north out of Todra or in Dades gorge. Can't remember the tea ceremony etiquette, but I used to take a photo with them and right their address down to send the photo, which always went down very well. I think being offered a third cup is the sign to decline and leave politely. Mint tea is very nice. We were honoured guests at a wedding, motocross boots and all!

Astbury

30th Jul 2004, 09:27

We know all about that type of official stuff, we get it a lot in Poland when we go to sort out anything offical for my wife. it was just a shock to find it like that here in Switzerland!!

dont think I could manage 3 cups of mint tea anyway :ill:

ROB 110 HICAP

30th Jul 2004, 09:34

dont think I could manage 3 cups of mint tea anyway :ill:

But sometimes its better to accept the third cup and offend them, so you don't have to buy a carpet or marry the ugly daughter, or both! Enjoy

ivisonm

30th Jul 2004, 12:16

Never tried it before so should be interesting! Must be better than the tea at work! Tastes like it's been filtered through an old jockstrap!

Mark

ROB 110 HICAP

30th Jul 2004, 12:30

Its very sweet and hot, refresshing. The other highlight is 'cafe au lait' served in a glass with about 4 sugars. its half strong coffee and half warm goats milk, really nice.

The coke/fanta etc used to be sold in the old style glass bottles. Some were almost white where they were so scratched from recycling. Some had old worn labels from the 70's, makes you think when you bin a tin over here.

Astbury

30th Jul 2004, 13:23

If they have the 1970 label on still how well do they wash the bottle???

ROB 110 HICAP

30th Jul 2004, 14:11

Sorry I meant original print straight on the glass. On hot day after standing on the pegs at 60mph for a few hours or bumping around at 30mph, you won't care if the label says TOXIC, they never tasted better!

The other good one is buying water melon straight from the field by the track and having the guy split it open right in front of you. Deliscious.

I suppose you guys are going with aircon, tinted windows, minifridges and hemetically sealed food portions!

Astbury

31st Jul 2004, 06:03

Were taking 70l of water, our Engle fridge freezer, and you bet AIRCON.

ivisonm

2nd Aug 2004, 11:06

No tinted winders, No aircon, just plenty of cool drinks (of water) from the mini fridge (not freezer). Plan to carry 80L of water.

Kids love water melon so I guess that will be part of our diet for a while! Will be taking some food over (dehydrated probably), but will be buying local food (try anything once!).

Any advice on what to try and what to keep well away from?

Is the water safe to drink from the wells, or should I take a water purifier or tabs?

Astbury

2nd Aug 2004, 11:21

Is your 80 L of water in one tank? I would drop a few tabs into it to prevent it going off!
TBH I think that you should forget the cool box they are just not up to the job, we first tried one of the 12volt ones, they work fine in winter but as soon as the temperature gets about 20-25 degrees C they cant keep up. we now use an Engle fridge freezer, it uses less power than the cool box and can still freeze when the outside temp is 35 degrees. power consumption is so low you can leave it on all night.

AJC

2nd Aug 2004, 18:36

Hi ivisonm,

I don't know how long you're going into the mountains or desert for, but on our previous trips we've always got by on two 20 litre containers of water (one for washing and one for drinking). The longest we've been there for is three weeks, one week of which was in the desert area. Bottled water is plentiful and cheap so topping up no problem. We keep topping up two 2 litre bottles which we keep in the cool box which we've found more than adequate. There are good and bad cool boxes and basically, you get what you pay for. Our coolbox cost just under half the price of an Engle and it proved itself in the high 30's. Okay, they don't make ice but do you need ice? Our box is left on overnight running off the auxilary battery which in the past a standard one. We now have a deep cycle just in case it does get flattened by other auxillary equipment.

We're off again on 3rd October as part of a 4 vehicle group so may see you around.

AJ

ROB 110 HICAP

3rd Aug 2004, 08:23

Don't go overboard on water, it is available everywhere in 2 litre sealed bottles. I have drunk from wells and survived. I used ones that were evidently pumped and gushing straight from a pipe into a pool. Took running water straight from the pipe, not the standing water in the pool.

In an oasis between Foum and Zagora the locals took great delight in showing us which pool to wash/swim and which to drink from, sensible people these you know. I don't think you can really catch anything too bad in Morocco, no jabs required after all, and malarial mozzies aren't resident.

To keep your water cool, wrap a wet towel around the bottle/container and then put it all in a strong bin bag, keeps it cool by evaporation of the wet towel. For your cooler bag leave your freezer blocks in a river/stream overnight, to get cold again.

ivisonm

3rd Aug 2004, 11:26

Sounds like the water is Ok for the kids - just a bit worried they may get bad tummies! Probably take 2x20L plastic bottles and supplement if neccessary with 2l bottles.

Sounds like a good tip about cooling the water. I saw another one like that about soaking the carpets to keep vehicle cool.

ajcoll - are going with an organised tour, or other fellow travellors? Any room for 1 more vehicle? Which port are you leaving from?

Which coolbox did you get that was nearly 1/2 price of engel fridge/freezer?

ROB 110 HICAP

3rd Aug 2004, 13:16

Sounds like a good tip about cooling the water. I saw another one like that about soaking the carpets to keep vehicle cool.

If you have a roofrack, put some ply on the bottom rails to cover the whole roof, this will create a shade gap of several inches to help cool the cab. If the whole rack is covered with stuff, then no need.

Take lots of Diorylyte (?) sachet salts from chemists. These are good for dehydration/diahorrea and settling your elctrolyte levels. If you are feeling the affects of the sun; head aches, irritability, irrational behaviour, or dehydration; dark coloured urine, then they really help. Don't overtake them or use as a preventative because they will send your electrolyte the wrong way as well.

Drink little and often. I used Camelbaks on the bike, and on some days drank one dry every 2 hours on the desert pistes in late September.

ivisonm

3rd Aug 2004, 20:47

Got most of the medical stuff needed - Diaralyte (spelling??) is next on the list for the kids.

About to get the roof rack - will be fitting boards as a matter of course.

I've been told by someone that I cannot bring back a few jerry cans of diesel hern I return from the continent - is this true? Anyone had experience of this?

Currently watching a 4x4 is born on home & liesure - cool!

AJC

3rd Aug 2004, 23:49

ivisonm,

Not going with an organised tour just like minded friends with Land Rovers (90, 110 and a Disc) who've been before.

Two vehicles are leaving Plymouth on 3rd Oct and the other two are driving down through France and Spain (Sea sick sufferers) on the. We're meeting up near LA Linea prior to getting the ferry over to Morocco. We had decided going to Tangiers but Cueta may be on the cards now. I've done both and reckon Tangiers is much more interesting (hustle & bustle factor). Where are you departing from?

Always returned to UK with full extended fuel tank and jerry cans. Not sure on the legality of the fuel cans though.

Can't remember make and model of coolbox. Make is possibly WAECO?? I'll have a look tomorow.

I personally don't mind another vehicle tagging along but I'll have to put it to rest of the group. A point to note:- There will be no kids in our group and we get s**t faced most evenings!

Photo - last trip Zagora - Erfoud

AJ

ivisonm

4th Aug 2004, 11:54

Just found a beaty of a web site for a web guidebook for morocco

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voyages4x4.com%2Froad book_maroc.htm&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

Enjoy!

AJC

6th Aug 2004, 23:34

Hi ivisonm,

You're more than welcome to join us (two vehicles) travelling down through Spain. However, once we meet up with the other two vehicles at Algeciras for the ferry we'll be going '******** out' to get down south as soon as we can. Major time in the saddle as we want maximum time in the sand as we've only got just over two weeks. It would be a shame if you were to miss out some of the lovely places both en-route and on the return leg as we won't be stopping having been before. We've been before as individuals and as part of a large group and we know exactly what we want to do, hence our small group.

My mate suggested tagging along with Vince Cobley of the LROI Adventure Cub and PROTRAX who is leading a trip a week or two weeks after we leave. The beauty of that is you have the mecanical and off road driving experts with you for piece of mind. I know it sounds like I'm 'putting you off' but I'd hate you to miss out on some fantastic places that could easily be visited whilst also including the mountains and the desert areas.

We're leaving from Plymouth on 3rd Oct to Santander (it's quicker than the Portsmouth - Bilbao ferry). If you're getting that ferry, let me know and I'll give you details of the timeings etc.

AJ

ivisonm

9th Aug 2004, 11:37

AJ,

I've mostly got a bunch of routes and places that I want to go to that are on the way down south, but I want to take it easy so I'll just have to go it alone this time - maybe we'll get toether next year, eh?

Does anyone have any advice about what pistes/areas to avoid with a single vehicle?

AJC

9th Aug 2004, 18:01

Hi ivisonm,

Roger your planned route. We'll probably on our way back up while you're still on your way down as we've only just got over a fortnight there.

When are you departing and will you be catching the same ferry as us? It would still be good to meet up and there's a wealth of experience between us (one's an off road driving instructer) who could answer your questions such as that above.

When I've been in the south by myself I've always been paranoid about getting stuck and stayed well clear of dune bashing! Most of the flat plain areas is volcanic cinder type stuff and no problem at all. You should also be able to drive all the way round the Erg Chebbi dunes without any problem if you stick to the tracks. We managed to cross those dunes last time but there were a couple of winch and kinetic rope sessions!!

What's your route down south?

AJ

ivisonm

11th Aug 2004, 11:19

I've booked the ferry from the 3rd-21st October (leaving 16:00 hrs) so give me your reg number and I'll say Hi, or we can meet outside the ferry terminal?

Obviuosly, we'll have to have a few beers in the bar!!

The route that I will be doing is basically as shown on the piccy (from www.4x4voyages.com) with a few of Chris Scott's routes mixed in. Lots of the routes on the web site are the same as Chris's. I'm not sure how much I'll get done in the 2 weeks there - just have to play it by ear and re-plan if there are holds ups.

Anyone have a suggestion for a piste between the Anoual and Erfoud? I'm sure there are plenty of pistes, but it's always best to get personaly recommendations rather than finding out the hard way!

Any suggestions also, about places of interest to vistit? The only real major thing I have to see (and the kids) is the ancient roman ruins of Volubilis. Would be nice to make this a bit educational for the kids, seeing as I;m pulling them out of School for 2 weeks!

Cheers,

Mark

AJC

11th Aug 2004, 21:22

Ey up Mark,

Our ferry has been broken down in Plymouth for the last two days with a flooded engine room due to a 'leaking' valve! Because it's stuck in the terminal, no other ferries can get in. Absolute mayhem apparently. There's a backlog of passengers all being directed to Poole and Portsmouth. Fingers crossed it's sea worthy by October.

We'll catch you in the queue - white 110 Defender and a blue Discovery. We'll have a good chat over a few scoops.

The southern most part of the 'loop' part your route is nearly identical to ours.

From Anoual there are a couple of tracks to choose from of which cross the N10/P32 then onto to Erfoud. Have you got a GPS? If so I can send some waypoints.

AJ

ivisonm

12th Aug 2004, 08:05

Bloody hell! Hope the rest of the valves are not 'stuck' (well, not in the open position anyway!).

I do have GPS. If you can pm them to me - cheers.

Cheers

AJC

22nd Aug 2004, 22:48

ivisonm,

The ferry departed Plymouth middle of last week and on Friday had broken down again in France with related problems!! Hope they get their **** in one sock for October!

I'll pm the route to you shortly.

AJ

AJC

22nd Aug 2004, 22:52

ivisonm,

Can't send an attachment via PM so sent you my e-mail address. Reply and I'll forward waypoints.

AJ

ivisonm

23rd Aug 2004, 11:36

email is ivisonm@ntlworld.com

AJC

23rd Aug 2004, 17:44

On it's way.

AJ

AJC

24th Aug 2004, 21:57

ivisonm,

Did you get the waypoints ok?

The ferry we are getting left Santander yesterday and limped into Plymouth today 6 hours late due to leaking valves. Some crossings have been cancelled and P&O do not know when it will sailing.

Don't know whether to change the booking to Portsmouth.

AJ

ivisonm

26th Aug 2004, 11:07

I'm starting to wonder about switching to portsmouth as well! Still have a week or so until I have to lay the money on the counter, so I'll see how it goes until then..

Waypoints were great - thanks for them.

just getting the last pieces of equipment and fitting a kenlowe to keep the temp down..

AJC

26th Aug 2004, 17:40

Paid for the ferry today so we're stuck with that now. Nothing on the local news about it tonight so it must be snag free ....................for now!

Pleased the waypoints were okay: Hope they're of some use to you.

AJ

ivisonm

3rd Sep 2004, 12:09

Just sent the cheque off for mine, so I guess were both in the same boat!

How difficult is it to get by without a decent (read=hardly any) knowledge of French?

Your waypoints are very useful - still planning the route, and have a bunch of routes now with a circular route that may take us down to tat, but that's only depending on how we are doing for time.

Does anyone have any places that I should definitely visit while there? I'll be seing the imperial city and volubilis, but any others would be useful.

Is there any routes that I should not try as a single vehicle? I'm fairly clued up on mechanics, improvisation and self recovery, but I'll obviously have to miss some routes out if they are too risky.

Also, check out Update on Morocco border entry (http://www.rudge.me.uk/archives/51_On_the_road_to_Morocco...html).

Mark

AJC

3rd Sep 2004, 20:24

Hi Mark,

No recent bad news on the ferry so we can assume it's running normal again. Just had some disappointing news today that one our group may have to drop out due to unforseen circumstances. We're now looking at getting the third vehicle on our ferry just in case, as they were travelling down through France & Spain together. Plenty of vehicle space left but they only have 4 berth cabins or reclining seats left!!

French is helpful but not necessary as most speak English. We take a french phrase book anyway.

The east to west bottom leg of the route I sent you; there are parts of that I wouldn't attempt myself unless fully equiped and experienced in sand driving. Some areas the track disapears and you're testing ground as you go along. When we meet on the ferry we can discuss it further along with the possibility of tagging along or meeting up for the bottom east to west leg.

Checked your border link. Are you going through Cueta? We went that way last time so we're going for the hassle of the Tangier crossing this time: It's much more entertaining!!

Apart from fitting the roof tent and renewing the gas bottle we're just about ready. If I don't hear from you before, catch you in the ferry queue.

AJ

ivisonm

6th Sep 2004, 12:16

Aye - I'm going to go for the easy route into Morocco, Cueta.

I would certainly feel better meeting up for the East to West section. Without some backup, I would miss them out rather than run the risks..

Can't wait to get going!

Did you get the white forms on the ferry when you were there last?

AJC

6th Sep 2004, 19:17

We were certainly given the forms on the ferry going into Tangier. I don't think we did going into Cueta. I'm sure we got them at the border crossing.

Just under 4 weeks. Looking forward to it too.

What vehicle/colour should we be looking out for in the queue?

AJ

ivisonm

7th Sep 2004, 06:39

My Landy is 110 CSW, blue, with the FrontRunner ally roof rack, screaming kids, reg k281rrn.

Just look for the loudest kids..

AJC

20th Sep 2004, 22:17

JUst under two weeks to go. Still haven't got the roof tent on yet. Bleeding brake system tomorrow and hand brake cable seems to be snagging where it bends around the overdrive! Just need to pack the boxes and we're ready.

Changed my insurance company a couple of months ago and whereas before I was issued a green card at no extra cost (AXA) this new company (ADMIRAL) will not issue one for Morocco!! That'll be me buying some insurance at the border.

The fourth vehicle is still 90% not coming which is a great shame.

How's your preps going Mark?

AJ

ivisonm

21st Sep 2004, 07:46

Still waiting on the green card (NFU - nice chaps), but all the rest of the documentation done.

Had to replace:

- 2x front discs (one had had it and the other was Ok, but what the hell).
- 1 front breake caliper
- rear springs with hd springs, as I think the self leveller is broken (£500 too much at the moment).
- roof rack (ouch - that hurt the piggy bank)
- new radiator and kenlowe fan (this made mr piggy squeel as well as the roof rack)
- polybush kit.

Still trying to get a few high back seats for the middles row and still toying with the idea of tinting the windows (for the kids, obviously!) and keeping prying eyes out...

Went for a run around the lakes on the weekend and found that:

- the main battery has probably seen better days or
- the alternator is past it.

On the bright side, I didn't get overheated going up Walna Scar or Garburn pass!

Have you ever gone through the west side of the Rif at all? If so, is it like the Rough Guide says and that Europeans will likely get robbed? Is it not recommended (especially alone!)? Theres a few places I'd like to see but they go through the Rif (along the coast to El Jebha, through Ketama, through to Guercif for the first piste Debdou 2 Anoul).

Lastly, is there any do's and don't when visiting Morocco? I know that the girls have to be covered (trousers and blouses) when in populated areas, but is there anything else?

See you soooooon!

Marky

PS. Everyone thinks that I'm mad to be going to Morocco when I could be Greece or Turkey sitting on a beach getting hammered and burnt to a crisp - muppets!

petergg

24th Sep 2004, 10:01

I get my ferry tickets from Viajes Arnel SL speak to Mohamed, you find them in the main building down by the docks in Algeciras, they will give you the entry and exit to Morocco paper work you get the Vehicle inport/Export papers at the border on way in to Morocco, you will be aproched by loads of ticket sellers the moment you get there, I walk past them and into main building head to the left far corner and on the right you will see the company I use, (They speak good English) be confident. :)

If you go to get tickets for the ferry go down to the docks (Algeciras) then if there is a problem you don't have to chase around to far for help. There is a car park just follow the road round to the ferry Cueta/Tanger and on right just before main building you can park free for upto 1 Hr to get ticket, and then 1min away from ferry.

Have fun

Peter

AJC

24th Sep 2004, 21:29

Mark,

Hope you've got all your bits and pieces sorted. A major family visit this weekend is preventing me sorting out last minute things so I'll be in the garage late a few nights next week. When we get on the ferry we'll get the maps out and swap info then.

Pete,

Are you the Pete that was on the Vince C's Morocco trip last April? If so, just to let you know we thoroughly enjoyed the large group exped. After doing it twice on our own it was good to have the security of other vehicles when crossing the sands. The rest of our little breakaway group is Mac (working for Vince now) and Phil (wee yorkie/silver 90). Believe Vince has a trip later in October: Are you going with him?

AJ

petergg

25th Sep 2004, 06:35

Are you the Pete that was on the Vince C's The rest of our little breakaway group is Mac (working for Vince now) and Phil (wee yorkie/silver 90). Believe Vince has a trip later in October: Are you going with him?

AJ

Hi yes is twas me, Not going This Oct due to a meeting I have with Land Rover. It will be the first one I've not done since setting it up in 2000. Mac works for us at the LRE Rockingham. www.offroadmasters.com I see A bit of Phill at the shows.

And you are?

Peter

AJC

25th Sep 2004, 20:51

Hi yes is twas me, Not going This Oct due to a meeting I have with Land Rover. It will be the first one I've not done since setting it up in 2000. Mac works for us at the LRE Rockingham. www.offroadmasters.com (http://www.offroadmasters.com/) I see A bit of Phill at the shows.

And you are?

Peter
Peter,

On the last trip I was driving the same Defender in the avitar. Mac worked for me in his last job and we celebrated his retirement from it in Zagora. Towards the end of our forthcoming trip, Mac is peeling off and meeting up with Mr 'C' to assist in the return of the group(s).

AJ