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Astbury
17th Aug 2004, 17:18
Ok here is a point for discussion between all people that either overland travel or just plain go camping.

Over all the camping years my wife and I have under our belts we have found that although you can spend many 000's of pounds on all sorts of gear & kit in the end most of it gets thrown away or stored in the basement never to be used again.

so what is good and what is not good and why? what do you need and what is nice? and do you need it!?

what have you all got then............

C

Newsreader
17th Aug 2004, 18:13
A tent? :hugegrin:

Slime101
17th Aug 2004, 18:30
I'll be watching this with interest as i still need to buy all my eating and cooking kit for when i go away...

shanno_2k
17th Aug 2004, 18:33
Tent,Single burner gas cooker,Water bottles,First aid kit,water proof clothing,map compass,whistle,waterproof torch
oh yes and food

ps...i know it looks OTT ur better being safe than sorry

jjsaul
17th Aug 2004, 18:40
Good Hotel guide.....

Geobloke
17th Aug 2004, 18:46
Mmmmm! interesting!

For simplicity sakes all you really need is;

tent,
roll mat,
sleeping bag,
trangia,
bottle of meths,
Fork and spoon,
mug,
mess tin,
towel,
water bottle,
water purification tablets,
torch,
food,
good first aid kit,
compass,
maps if available,
shovel (for when there isn't a toilet block!!!!),
toilet roll (leaves and twigs are too uncomfy, moss is good though!!!),
and probably the most essential item... A sharp strong knife!

It would of course be sooooooooo easy to go over board with kit, god knows we all buy stuff we don't need millets is full of it!
I guess the next stage up is a roof tent, but only if you really intend to use it properly! and that doesn't mean leaving it up on the roof rack for show whilst in tesco!!

Anyway I suspect I ahve missed things but I suspect peeps will fill the gaps!

Cheers

Geobloke

Slime101
17th Aug 2004, 18:51
What do you cook in/on Geo?

Geobloke
17th Aug 2004, 19:13
Hey Slime

A Trangia! Why?
Admitedly when me girlie is around she brings her dads dual hob and grill gas cooker! Some reason she refuses to eat out of mess tins and off a trangia! Oh well!

Geo.

Slime101
17th Aug 2004, 19:17
I was just wondering, no pots or pans and a tiny meths stove to cook on...pah!

I shall be having the double hob with grill and pots 'n' pan of some sort, i shall really miss my kitchen when i'm away.

Astbury
17th Aug 2004, 19:21
some great stuff! our set up at the moment is:

Not in any order...

Twin burner cooker (mounted in the back of the landy)
water tank (mitbotl)
rubbish bin bags
Chain saw ;)
Roof tent (we do go most weekends so its nice and easy)
Air tight ally food box (bears in Poland and Ukraine!! honest!!)
air tight ally box for anything that may be left smelling of food
Engle for the beer and vodka
First aid kit
Head torches
Hand torch
Lamp
Maps
GPS
PMR radios
HF Tranceiver
Light sticks
digital camera, digital video cam, All band all mode radio for the BBC world service and more

Ok a little over the top for just plain camping but that and a lot more fits in the 110 when we are on a long one or off road

C

Geobloke
17th Aug 2004, 19:23
I guess it really depends on what you have planned! If I were kitting out a truck for an overland experdition I suspect I would take a petrol fueled hob, cos you can use almost any fuel with them!

and of course if that were the case there is a thousand bits of kit to choose from and take with you, sand ladders, jerry cans, ect..

Geo.

Astbury
17th Aug 2004, 19:26
sure I agree. but has anyone bought anything that lasted one trip then never got used ever again?

It think we all have at some point......

si_guru
17th Aug 2004, 20:08
sure I agree. but has anyone bought anything that lasted one trip then never got used ever again?

It think we all have at some point......

toilet roll?

.... I'll get me coat.

Astbury
17th Aug 2004, 20:13
Nah. prevents people from asking to come with us!!!!!!! ;)

Yeah ok we even forgot the ladder to the tent on out trip to the Ukraine ;) ******!!

Oh and when we could hear the young bears playing close to our wild camp with no fire wood around to keep a fire going and forgot to take the fuel for the light and no tube to get any fuel out of the landy we managed to run the camp light on Vodka till morning! kept the flame going and the bears away :)

C

Michelle
18th Aug 2004, 03:02
those triangia cookers are great, but if you've got room a double burner would be handy too. I bought the triangia hikers stove so I could carry it lightly on horseback when looking after myself. If there are a couple of people the double burner is more ideal, and they come in such small little carry cases nowadays.
*top rated sleeping bag a must, otherwise you have to carry several blankets with you as well.
*swag doesnt go astray, even if you're in a tent the canvas gives you that extra bit of lining and if something happens to the tent you can rough it with the swag.

Slime101
18th Aug 2004, 08:57
Whats swag michelle?

Michelle
18th Aug 2004, 09:12
um...
basically just an oversized canvas roll that you put your sleeping bag and mat into and zip up. They can be simple ones like the one I'm trying to sell at the moment, basically just sleeping bag design - or they can get very complex now and be almost mini tents with flynets etc
Simple Swag (http://www.sleeping-bags.com.au/images/bushman_lg.jpg)

Fancy pants swag (http://www.sleeping-bags.com.au/images/king_swag_lg.jpg)

rmackay
18th Aug 2004, 09:45
we seem to have the camping equipment down to a fine art now and have the usual folding tripod style chairs - folding table - fold away picnic four seater - v handy!! for a stove we use the single burner table top cookers such as chefs use on demos outside - hi gear make them among others so they retail about £15 and u can buy the butane canisters to go with them!

airbed is a must - none of this karrimat crap -ten years in the scouts taught me that!!!

windbreak is a good idea - and sleeping bags and a duvet for when it gets colder!

soft? me? who cares!!

slΰinte!

Mikey 110
18th Aug 2004, 09:49
I bought an ex Swedish Army Trangia set for 12 quid, and it's slow, but safe, and it gets there eventually. But if you want how powered cooking go for a peak pressure petrol burner. Of course if you're really travelling light go for American Army issue MREs (Meals Ready to Eat). Just add a little water and they heat themselves up!

That's if you're walking and carrying the minimum kit, and of course you need to carry an emergency survival bag.

On the other hand, if you're camping in the Landie, take everything you can afford from Chris' list :-)

Geobloke
19th Aug 2004, 12:38
Ah ha! forgotten some things!

Bivi-bag
Survival blanket
How to **** in the woods (an envionmentally sound approach to a lost art) - an essential book everyone should read before going in to the wilderness!

Cheers

Geo.

ROB 110 HICAP
19th Aug 2004, 13:43
All of the above and most importantly a pillow! My worst nights camping have been without a pillow or using a jumper/jacket. Pack pillows that stuff up small are ok for about £5. Proper pillows are best, if you have dry space.

A cotton or silk sleeping bag liner is good. Saves you washing your sleeping bag so often (but always air it). Keeps you warmer or cooler if you just use the liner. On a long trip i take 2, use one while the other is being washed/dried.

Stuff used once and discarded:

A small 'pack' pillow case to stuff your jumper in, crap

A 'pack' towel; small, funny shape, good at pushing water around your body, but not drying it

Slime101
19th Aug 2004, 14:52
Ah ha! forgotten some things!
How to **** in the woods (an envionmentally sound approach to a lost art) - an essential book everyone should read before going in to the wilderness!

Cheers

Geo.

Is this for real?? If so can i have the ISBN number and author details please :)

Geobloke
19th Aug 2004, 15:05
Is this for real?? If so can i have the ISBN number and author details please :)


Sure!

How to **** in the woods - An environmentally sound approach to a lost art. 2nd Edition. by Kathleen Meyer. Ten Speed Press. 1994
ISBN:0-89815-627-0 Approx. £5.99

It's a great book! In fact I am going to read it again!

Enjoy

Cheers

Geo.

Slime101
19th Aug 2004, 15:08
Cheers Geo, i'm off to borders to see if i can get one now :)

Newsreader
19th Aug 2004, 15:11
[QUOTE=Geobloke]a lost artQUOTE]
Too right it's a lost art - there's plenty of folk come up here that haven't read it ... :snarl:

Marc Lurie
19th Aug 2004, 15:15
Hi all,

You've all forgotton the FIVE RULES OF CAMPING.

Rule 1) Never run out of Gin.

Rule 2) See Rule 1

Rule 3) Never run out of Whiskey

Rule 4) See Rule 3

Rule 5) If you unwisely break Rules 1 to 4, find a comfy pub or restaurant.

Regards,
Marc - Johannesburg

Geobloke
19th Aug 2004, 15:16
here it is on amazon if peeps are interested!

How to **** in the woods (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0898156270/qid=1092928469/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_10_1/202-3697582-7869402)

Cheers

Geo.

Astbury
19th Aug 2004, 17:49
this is a joke lads.....

does this book only have 3 pages or what? how much can someone write about doing the dunny in the woods?

Run out of booze??? now that is a sin to be without the gin, vodka, beer, tullamore dew after all that is the only reason you pay all that money on an Engle fridge and a battery system that can run it for a week without starting the engine!!!

Items that we never used more than twice...

Were given a battery lantern that needed to be charged up....forget it
were given a small lamp with candle/spring thing....Cr*p
20l plastic water cans...check that the plastic is solid enough to to support its own weight over the end of the tail gate without bending and falling over
Digital Thermometers that record the high and low temps of the day and night, most of them stop working at -15ish C

cheers

C

Slime101
19th Aug 2004, 17:58
Astbury - the book is for real, waterstones will have my copy within the week as borders couldnt get it.

Astbury
19th Aug 2004, 18:02
Slime,

I will be interested to hear how your cr*ping improves....

Slime101
19th Aug 2004, 18:13
Slime,

I will be interested to hear how your cr*ping improves....


I'll keep you informed :p

Geobloke
19th Aug 2004, 22:16
I'll keep you informed :p


Of every movement, right?

Geo.

Madoobri
19th Aug 2004, 22:49
You`ll be taking a degree in Turdology next .... :teacher: :looroll:


Madoobri

mburton2
20th Aug 2004, 12:12
Anyhow.........Back on track.......

Things we use alot include

I have a £30 Rechargeable battery lampy thingy from Argos a few years ago (Has a powerful-ish spot lamp, and a tube for general lighting).....Works very well, and can be charged from the LR when we're out'n'about....used manily for short periods of time, when the Hot Gas lamp isnt practical.

A hot gas lampy thingy.....one where the glass "jam-jar" bit unclips, as it makes it easier to store when not in use.

A "head" lamp.....ideal for use when putting a tent up in the dark, or tyring to find things in the roof-box....

Fold up chairs.....they just make life so much more comfortable.

An Aqua-pac for the iPAQ/Satnav, another one for the phone, and I was thinking about getting one fo rhe PMR radios.

PMR radios :) We're often in a big group mountain-biking...

a 3-piece screw-together sheapards crook thingy, stuck in the ground in the middle of the group in the eve's, when were drinking beer/BBQing.....so the gas-lantern can be hung up at eye level, and ruin everyones night vision (Why should I be the only not able to see??)

A twin hob gas cooker, with a little flip-down toasty thingy....the other half loves toast in the morning when we're camping.

A few AA battery holders (Available from 7dayshop.com), with fully charged AA batteries in (for PMR radios, head lamps, MiniMaglights)

And if were going for more than a week...a 300w DC-AC converter, to allow my to charge the AA batteries using my std charger (I dont have one that plugs in to a 12v fag-lighter)

oh, and a couple of cheap 1-season kipmats, used ont he fold out chairs, to stop getting a chill on the back.....also used just outside the "bedroom" so my little tootsies dont get cold when I get off the inflateable matress in the morning to make toast for the missus....

:)

Astbury
20th Aug 2004, 12:32
Ok guys I am going to save you loads of money...........


You dont need a book to learn how to cr*p

I have spent tha last 35 years trying to perfect the art and now I think I have it about right!

1, Find suitable spot preferably not over the edge of a cliff and with noone around. (a, you dont wanna fall off the cliff and b, its not good for people to see (unless they are French)

2, Find good place to put down your toilet roll (you dont want it to roll away) If your in france the side of the road will do, make sure that all motorists have you in good view, remember to face them head on but turn around at step 7 so they see all the action

3, Dig hole in ground (slice top off turf if on grass)

4, Undo belt and drop pants to around knee hight

5, squat

6, Deep breath in

7, Push

8, locate toilet roll

9, select preferred amount of paper

10, wipe, wipe again amd one more just to be safe.

11, check all went into the hole, if not help it

12, fill in hole, replace turff

13, check noone saw you!

14, walk back to camp with a smile, act as though you have just been for a walk in the woods

That is it! maybe I should write a book??

** note that desert cr*pping the instructions are not the same as above (these I will put in my book, for full instructions desert Cr*pping send 100 points :)

C

Marc Lurie
20th Aug 2004, 13:05
Between 4 and 5 you left out a very important step.

4a) Make sure there's no wildlife about. Snakes, ants, wasps, crocodiles etc.

You certainly want something taking a bite out of your dangly bits :scared:

I've attached three photographs taken in December 2003 on the slopes of Kilimanjaro. The first two are of my friends Natalie, Michelle, and Rebecca showing that they are well versed in the subtle art of bush squatting. So much for making sure that no-one was watching. ;director:

The third has nothing to do with squatting, but it shows a Landcruiser in deep s**t, while the landrover waits patiently behind. The landy "cruised" through the ruts without a hitch.

Regards,
Marc - Johannesburg

Astbury
24th Aug 2004, 14:06
Yeah make sure no one with a camera is around you too!!!


C

Pete H
31st Aug 2004, 17:22
Here is a scaled down version of our camping check list,

Backpack
Bags - Tent bag, plastic bags, etc.
Cardboard boxes if needed
Ice Chests
ICE! Ice Packs
Bucket
Lighting - Check batteries!
Gas lantern (these are superb)
Lighter (as in cigarette)
Matches (preferably water proof)
Spare batteries and bulbs
Spare lantern fuel and mantles
Shelter/Bedding
TENT!! (DONT LEAVE HOME WITHOUT THIS)!!
Sleeping bag
Duvet (if you've got room!)
Ground Sheet
Mattress or pad - Inflator for air mattress
Pillow

Windbreak
Hammer to sink tent pegs
Medical
Suntan Lotion (ever optimistic!)
Insect Repellent - Spray
Aspirin, Paracetemal etc
Tweezers for splinters and ticks
Antiseptic, plasters and bandages
First Aid Kit (may include all the above items)
Pocket Tissues
Cleaning and Personal Items
Soap
Flannel
Shampoo
Toothpaste and toothbrush
Comb/hair brush/clips/bands
Make-up bag
Razor and shaving cream
Towel
Deoderant
Bog roll (essential)

Swiss Army knife
Compass and Map
Safety pins
Mobile phone / extra battery and car adapter
Laptop/car charger
Camera / good battery and extra film
Camcorder / good battery and extra tapes
Books, radio, cards, games, toys, etc.
MONEY, credit card, etc
Bikes 4
Bodyboards 4
Kayaks 2
Binoculars
Chairs
Travel Clock
Clothesline and pegs
Basic tools (screwdrivers, pliers, etc.)
Maps!
Cooking
Stove with fuel and lighter
Newspapers for lighting a campfire
Charcoal and Grill for BBQ
Frying Pan
Sauce pan - ; With lid
Can opener
Thermos flask?
Corkscrew / Bottleopener
Dishes
Plates
Mugs
Sharp knife
Knives, Forks, Spoons and Teaspoons
Dish Cloth
Tea Towel
Washing Up Liquid
Consumables
Paper towels
Rubbish bags
Paper plates, cups, bowls, etc.
Plastic knives, forks, spoons
Aluminum Foil
Food and Drink
Cooking Oil
Baked Beans
Crisps
Butter
Bacon
Eggs
Tomato sauce
Cheese
Onions, mushrooms, Tomatoes
Bread
Salt, Pepper, Spices, Sugar
Fruit - Small fruit cups or fresh fruit
Veggies
Coffee and Tea (don't forget SUGAR!)
Milk, juice, soft drinks
Beer !!!!!!!!!! (don't forget this!)

If anyone wants the full list then just say :buck: :buck: :buck: :Bigbounce

Geobloke
31st Aug 2004, 20:19
Oh go on then post the full list matey!!! :smallprin

You know you want to!!! Heheheeh!!!

Geo.

Pete H
31st Aug 2004, 21:08
Oh go on then post the full list matey!!! :smallprin

You know you want to!!! Heheheeh!!!

Geo.

Ok mate you asked for it...
In alphabetical order........Almost :)
you ready,,,

Abrasive cloth/cleaner
Address book
Air pump
Alarm clock
Anorak
Ash tray
Auxiliary batt (full c)
Airbeds
Bail Bonds
Ball’s (tennis etc)
Barbecue & fuel & tools
Batteries (spares)
Beach blanket/mats
Beakers
Beds
Belts
Bicycles 4
Bicycle pump/Repair kit
Binoculars
Blankets
Blouses...errr
Books
Boots
Bottle opener
Boules
Bowls (Fruit/cereal)
Breakdown insurance
Breakdown triangle
Breeches
Buckets
Buckets & spades
Butter dish
Cameras (mem cards)
Camp kitchen
Camping carnet
Candles
Car games
Car logbook
Carrier bags
Carrycot
Car spares
Carving knive
Cassette/cd player
Cassettes & cd’s
Chairs
Cheque book
Cheque card
Cleaning cloths
Clothes hangers
Coats
Collander
Comb
Compass
Containers (lidded)
Cooker
Cooking utensils
Coolbox
Corkscrew
Credit cards
Cruets
Cutlery
Detergent
Dinghy & equipment
Dishcloth
Documents
Dressing gown
DRINK
Driving licence (inter)
Dustpan & brush
E111 form
Egg cups
Engine oil
Eurocheques
Eurocheque card
Extension lead
Ferry timetable
Fire extinguisher
Fire blanket
First aid kit
Flannels
Flip flops/sandals
Flyspray/fly swatt
Food
Freezer packs
Foreign currency
Fridge
Frying pan
GB sticker
Gaiters
Gaffertape
Games
Gas
Gloves
Green card
Ground sheet
Guidebooks
Hairbrush
Hairdryer
Hammer
Hamper
Hankies
Headgear
Heater
Hip Flask
Hip pouch
Hitch lock
Hot water bottle
Ice packs
Insect sprays repellents
Jackets
Jeans
Jumpers
Jump leads
Kettle
KEYS (for everything)
Kitchen knife
Kitchen roll
Kitchen cloths
Knives forks spoons
Kayak 2
LANDROVER!
Larder
Laptop/car charger/DVD
Leatherman
Life jackets 4
Lighter
Lights
Magazines
Mains hook up lead
Mains Tester
Mallet
Mantles spare
Maps /os
Map case (waterproof)
Matches (waterproof)
Measuring jug
Measuring tape
Medicines
Membership cards/National trust/AA
Methylated spirits
Milk(cancel)
Mirror
Money
Mosquito repellent
Nappies
Needle & thread
Newspapers (cancel)
Notebook
Oven
Overnight bag
Passports
Pegs/extracter
Pens/pencils
Penknife
Petfood
Photographic gear
Phrase book
Picnic set
Pillows
Plastic sacks/bin liners
Plates large/small
Playingcards
Polish & cloth
Potty
Pressure cooker
Pump (air)
Purse
Pushchair
Pyjamas
Radio
Ratchet straps
Razor
Regulator & hose /gass
Repair kits
Reservation slips
Rucksacks
Sac cover
Sail boards
Saucepans
Scissors
Shampoo
Shaver
Shirts
Shoe polish/cleaner
Shoes
Shorts
Sink plug
Sites guide
Skirt(s)...Not for me :)
Sleeping bags/liners
Sleeping mats
Slippers
Soap
Socks
Spade
Spare wheel
Spare diesel 3 cans (60 liters)
Spectacles 2 pairs
Spirit level
Stove
Sunglasses
Suntan Lotion
Sweaters
Swimming gear
Tables
Teacloths
Teapot
Tee shirts
Television/aerial
Tent poles/pegs
Tickets
Tie’s
Tights for the snorkel
Tin opener
Tissues
Toilet
Toilet bags
Toilet fluid/sachets
Toilet rolls
Toilet tent
Tools
Toothbrushes
Toothpaste
Torch
Towrope
Towels
Toys
Travellers cheques
Trousers
Trowel
Tumblers
Underware
Vacuum cleaner
Visa’s
Walking stick
Wallet
Wardrobe
Washing line & pegs
Washing powder
Washing up bowl
Washing up liquid
Waste tank
Water
Water carrier
Waterproofs/Mac in sac 4
Water sterilising kit
Wellingtons 4 pairs of
Windbreaks 2

Well you did ask ! :hugegrin:

manthing
31st Aug 2004, 22:22
I new you would forget somat rushing about like that,
Gaffer tape,,,, doh

Pete H
31st Aug 2004, 22:26
I new you would forget somat rushing about like that,
Gaffer tape,,,, doh
Thanks for that Manthing....Gaffertape will be added :)

olo
31st Aug 2004, 22:33
u need a C-17 globemaster to carry all that not a land rover!!

Geobloke
1st Sep 2004, 08:54
Pete, you sure the tights are actually for the snorkel???!!!??? ;) ;) :D :D

Geo.

PS. how come you didn't wear your slippers when we were campin?????

Pete H
1st Sep 2004, 22:26
Pete, you sure the tights are actually for the snorkel???!!!??? ;) ;) :D :D

Geo.

Ah now, that would be telling :D

Pete H
3rd Sep 2004, 20:14
Just for the record............We dont really take all that crap camping.....
Incase you were all digusted in the amount on the list :D :D
The list was for fun ,and i hope peeps could add more to the list :p

Bare essenials for us ....:)

Pete

R0Y
3rd Sep 2004, 21:09
Bout time i put our list of camping equipment owned on here i suppose. Doesn't neccessarily follow that it goes with us on every trip, but each piece of equipment is regarded as essential and been chosen through trial and error usage and purchasing over several years. It all depends on the camping holiday planned as to which items of equipment we take, a three week camping holiday with only perhaps one change of campsite in between will see us take more equipment than next weekends trip to Peterboro. Ah well, here goes.......

Vango TBS Equinox 350 Tent
2 x Sleeping bags, compression sacks and Goretex outer sleeves
2x Roll mats
1x Airbed (for wifey's use ;) , hiya sweetie :bigwave: )
1x Coleman multi fuel lantern
1x Trangia 3 person cook kit
1x Camping gaz stove
1x Haybox oven - ask me and i will tell all.
1x Ortleib water carrier/doubles as a pillow.
Good old fashioned enamelled metal "camping" plates
Lidded insulated mugs
Camping cutlery
Chopping board
Bucket BBQ/ doubles as a brazier ;)
2x Deck chairs
Camping table

Apart from the sleeping bags and the haybox oven, it all fits nicely into two ex-mil lidded boxes. Got into the habit of having everything stripped down to the bare essentials after many years of backpacking. Have made some wise purchases over the years and some wrong ones with regards equipment, but hey, you learn by your mistakes. I beleive, we now have the perfect setup (for us at least), although when i get older a 9x9 command tent and a couple of cot beds might get added to the list. :D

paul (panda)
4th Sep 2004, 06:50
well after spending lots of unenjoyable times out in the wilderness such as brecon and otterburn in the middle of winter out on exercise and also on hard routine so no cooking at all which means no hot food and no hot drink , living in a mucky shell scrape with a doss bag and a bivvy bag with wet clothes in your bivvy bag to to try and dry them out , waking up in the morning for stand to packing all the kit away its minus 8 and yes you have to take the nice warm dry clothes off and put the nice freezing cold wet ones back on , lie in the snow for first light to pass then onto the cold breakfast etc . i decided that now as a civilian camping would never be uncomfortable every luxury i yearned for whilst in the army would be bought .
so here goes
tent 4 man with living area and bedroom attached to tent is a gazebo this is the cooking area gazebo has removable sides
double air bed and single air bed
3 sleeping bags 2 duvets and pillows
3 folding chairs
one collapsing table
one cooker stand with shelves
double burner butane cooker
appropiate amount of food inc eggs saus bacon for breakfast and bbq meats for later
disposable bbqs ( one for each day )
one slab to put disposable bbq on
plastic plates bowls and kfs
nice warm clothing , waterproof clothing, summer clothing .
trainers/boots
one guard dog (boxer no one comes to the tent uninvited when it gets dark)
camping light (gas powered)
spare gas canisters , spare mantles
one nicely sized rounders bat to coincide with guard dog :D
dog food dog bowls
bottles of wine
case of stella
cigarettes/cigars
lighters
and one landrover to put it all in
at the moment the camping wagon is a freelander , future camping wagon will be a defender and the freelander relegated to road duties
probably missed some things , after being in the army i cant see the point in going needlessly cold hungry and wet its just silly and pointless lol
especially when the army do go to war and all that roughing it crap goes out the window and they dive into warriors

caber
15th Sep 2004, 22:39
There is only one thing you need for camping...... a CARAWAGON!

Caber
:nellie:

bushy
27th Sep 2004, 22:38
I bought a gas fridge before i went on a 12 day fishing trip to holland in july best 120 quid ive ever spent tinnys kept ice cold at all times even when it was red hot outside my mates cool box had lost its cool after a couple of days and he was drinking warm beer whislt i was enjoying teasing him with my ice cold cans it even makes ice cubes, the gas hasnt needed to be refiled after various trips and it also runs on 240 and 12 volt.I also have a primus omni fuel stove that runs on gas,petrol,or diesel plus its very powerfull and if stranded you can always use the diesel out of the landy.

dynamited
28th Sep 2004, 08:05
Fantastic thread...

chrisandlandie
5th Oct 2004, 01:20
1x Haybox oven - ask me and i will tell all.

Please tell more...what is the camping equivalent of the domestic oven?
I was thinking of experimenting with cast ironware (top to top upended) ......(or modified brake drums) with a grid inside.......silly idea???.....
If there is a ready made version ro check out............
Chris

Astbury
20th Nov 2004, 11:23
Please tell more...what is the camping equivalent of the domestic oven?
I was thinking of experimenting with cast ironware (top to top upended) ......(or modified brake drums) with a grid inside.......silly idea???.....
If there is a ready made version ro check out............
Chris
I have seen Gas grill / ovens but they all look like the sort of thing you would use in a caravan. You could have a go at making a mud oven if you dont mind getting your hands dirty! Saw a few of them in Morocco used for baking bread.

C

Michelle
20th Nov 2004, 11:47
I have...

*deep breath*

Triangia hikers stove
crappy triangle two man tent

...


..


(had to sell the swag, and the sleeping bag when I ran out of money...)
So...thats it for now lol...

The moral of my story is, not to go camping at this stage in time.

R0Y
20th Nov 2004, 16:31
Please tell more...what is the camping equivalent of the domestic oven?
I was thinking of experimenting with cast ironware (top to top upended) ......(or modified brake drums) with a grid inside.......silly idea???.....
If there is a ready made version ro check out............
ChrisJust re-discovered this.

To call it an oven is probably the wrong word as that probably conjures up images of roasts. What it is though is a very highly insulated container that will keep the heat in and finish off cooking (without the need for constant heat) soups, stews, casseroles etc. We've made and used one on several occasions when camping and travelling round.

Here's how it works, you get up in the morning and while making your breakfast you prepare your casserole/stew and put it on to boil. after allowing to boil for ten - fifteen minutes you remove from the heat and place in your haybox. The heat retained by the haybox will continue to slow cook your casserole/stew for anywhere between 4-6 hrs, thus just requiring it to be brought to the boil and finished off before serving.

For the "haybox oven" you will need......

1 box - we normally use a lidded polystyrene one obtained from a proper greengrocers (normally carry broccoli or watercress). Although a cardboard box is fine.
1 bag of common old petshop bought hay.
1 lidded cooking pot - we bought a proper old stoneware casserole/stew pot but have used a pan and the lid from the trangia before now.

Line the bottom of the box with at least 2-3 inches (5-8cm) when compressed, of hay. Place cooking pot in the centre and then pack as much hay around the pot as possible making sure the top gets as much as the bottom in terms of thicknes covering it close the box lid and away you go.

May seem a lot of hassle, but some great meals can be acheived using this method. Look out for some recipes coming soon in poachers corner.

Astbury
23rd Nov 2004, 13:30
A slow cooker in a box!


(of straw)

chrisandlandie
23rd Nov 2004, 14:39
Hmmmn...slow cooking...my old dad used to go on about light bulbs in biscuit tins..can't say i've tried that one though......

Astbury
29th Nov 2004, 20:55
Ok so we now have a comprehensive list of what people take camping but what about all those utterly useless things that look great in the out door shop but quickly become discarded as utter poo?

Woodparts
21st Dec 2004, 17:15
101 ambi - expedition equipped.
I'm with Paul the Panda on this one. After 12 years of army camping I like my woodburning stove, single bitumen burner, trangia, 2" of insulation all round (Ambi construction), roof tent to keep the kids out of the way and a cellar (by wheel arch opposite woodburner) for fine(ly priced) red wines.

If you want some good cooking tips have a look at Simon's site http://www.combat-online.com/cook2.htm

A good laff too!

pics of 101 in forward control & lightweight forum

Woodparts
21st Dec 2004, 19:48
Oh yes nearly forgot

A washing machine!

It makes a great brazier (see pics)

Eben
21st Dec 2004, 19:55
This is what the average South African takes with him when he goes hunting / fishing / camping.

Now you'll understand why they make such great 4x4 trailers in that neck of the woods:

CAMPING
HUNTING LIST

Food

• Avos
• Bacon
• Baking Powder
• Barbecue Spice
• Beers
• Biscuits 'n yummies
• Bread
• Brono/Gravy powder
• Bully Beef
• Butter and Marg
• Cake
• Cereals
• Cheese
• Chips, nuts 'n things
• Chocolate
• Chutney
• Coconut
• Condensed milk!!
• Curry
• Drinks: Fizzies, juice
• Eggs
• Fat/Oil
• Flour: Normal and self-raising
• Fruit and Vegies: Canned and fresh.
• Garlic
• Garlic Salt
• Ham
• Herbs, spices and sauces
• Honey
• Ice
• Instant Pud
• Jams
• M.Lade
• M.Meal
• Marmite
• Marshies
• Mayonnaise
• Meat: Fresh and Canned
• Milk: Condensed
• Milk: Fresh, Longlife and Powdered
• Mustard (mild)
• Onions
• Onion soup for bread
• Pasta
• Potatoes
• Rice
• Salt and Pepper
• Saltanas and raisins
• Soup
• Sous Boontjies
• Stock
• Sugar
• Sweet Corn
• Syrup
• Tea and decent coffee
• Tommies
• Tommy Sauce
• Tuna
• Viennas
• Vinegar
• Worcester Sauce

Kitchen

• Basin
• BBQ Wire
• Bread Board
• Bread Knife
• Broom
• Bucket
• Carving Knife
• Cool Box
• Cups
• Dinner Plates
• Dish Clothes and towels
• Dishwasher and soap
• Egg Beater
• Egg Slice
• Flasks or cold/hot containers
• Fly Swat
• Fry Pan
• Grater
• Ice Container
• Iron
• Jaffle irons
• Jugs
• Kettle
• Knives, Forks, Spoons, Tea-spoons
• Lunch Tins
• Matches and lighters
• Meat Tongs
• Newspaper
• Packets for making bread
• Pans
• Paper Towels
• Pegs
• Plates: paper, plastic, porridge, tin
• Plough disk
• Pot Scourer
• Pots And Handles
• Pressure Pot
• Rubber Gloves
• Rubbish bags/bins
• Sadza pot
• Serving spoons
• Sharp Knife
• Sieve
• Tables
• Tea Pot
• Thermos
• Tin Foil
• Tin Opener
• Toaster
• Vim
• Wooden Spoon and spatulas

Meat Processing

• Basins, buckets and drums
• Boards
• Casing
• Choppers
• Knives
• Knife sharpening stuff
• Mincer
• Plastic Packets and brown paper
• Ropes, chains, Block & Tackle, Rod
• Salt, vinegar, herbs and spices
• Saws
• Spec and pork
• Wire, Wire mesh and paper clips

Fuel, Heat, Cold, Light And Water

• Benzine
• Candle Sticks
• Candles
• Extensions: 12v, 220v, gas
• Fire grills
• Fridge and Freezer
• Fuel containers with fuel
• Gas
• Gas Lamps and 12v lights
• Generator
• Spares and servicing kits
• Stove
• Torches with spare batteries
• Water Containers
• Water pump, pipes & connections, rubber tubing

Tents and Sleeping

• Chairs and Tables
• Ground Sheets and Mats
• Mattresses
• Mozzie Net
• Rope, string and wire
• Sheets, Blankets and Pillows
• Sleeping Bags
• Tents, Tarps and Poles
• Umbrella

General

• Beach Bag
• String

Guns & Fishing

• Permits and licenses
• Terrain/Topo Maps
Guns
• Ammo box with ammo
• Belts and pouches
• Cleaning kit
• Sticks
• Targets and Stand
• Water bottles
• Weapons
Fishing
• Catch net
• Fishing boxes
• Keep net
• Rods
• Worms/bait
Boat
• Anchor and rope
• Bass motor with battery
• Charged Battery
• Finder
• Fuel tank and spare fuel
• Jackets
• Oars and bailing kit
• Skiing kit

Bath and Toilet

• Big pot
• Dental Floss and Tooth Picks
• Plug
• Screen
• Shower and big basin
• Soap, Shampoo and Surf
• Toilet Paper and Tissues
• Toiletries
• Towels

Entertainment

• Binoculars
• Books: Animal, Birds, General, and Trees
• Camera
• Games
• Radio
• Toys

Personal

• Camera, video, radio, batteries
• Clothes
• Finances
• Hats
• Jackets and warm items
• Passport and visas
• Shoes and slops
• Sunglasses
• Swimming Costume

Protection and Health

• Anti-biotics?
• Block Out
• First aid kit
• Hats!!
• Insecticide and ant killer
• Malaria Tabs
• Mozzie Repellent
• Sewing kit
• Suntan Lotion

Transport

• Axe, spade, saw
• Brake and Clutch Fluid
• Engine oil
• Gearbox oil
• Chain and cable
• Cold box
• Empties (coke, fanta etc)
• Engine and Gearbox Oil
• Extra spare wheel
• Fuel containers (with fuel)?
• Grease
• Jacks (Small, Hi-lift, Spanners for Hi-lift)
• Maps, licenses, permits, letters of permission
• Plastic steel, tape, sealers, glue, cork for sump gasket, Trinepon putty
• Pump and Puncture repair kit
• Gorilla snot
• Scratch Box (nuts, bolts, washers) and various other spares (e.g. brackets)
• Syphon pipes and funnels
• Tools (R&F, Sockets, Screwdrivers, etc.)
• Water (containers) for drinking and overheating
• Wire (steel)
• Wire (electrical) & other lugs & things
• Lightt bulbs
• Insulation tape
• V-belt & stockings
• Old king-pin
• Old wheel bearings
• Alternator

R0Y
21st Dec 2004, 21:13
Not got any " Gorilla snot", can i substitute it with Baboon phlegm:confused:

Eben
21st Dec 2004, 22:41
Not got any " Gorilla snot", can i substitute it with Baboon phlegm:confused:

Depends: whether you want to be able to quickly sort out a puncture in the middle of the bush or not.

Gorilla snot is much more suited to puncture repairs, while baboon phlegm is better served warm in a stew...

Highway_Star
21st Dec 2004, 22:46
Washing machine drum brazier. Excellent idea!

R0Y
22nd Dec 2004, 12:02
Gorilla snot is much more suited to puncture repairs, while baboon phlegm is better served warm in a stew...LMFAO:D

NewBloke
15th Dec 2005, 02:56
Thought I'd revive this thread as I'm planning a bit of a trip myself ;)

Anyone any good things to add or a list of things that you wish you'd never bought?

BigJim
15th Dec 2005, 09:21
Thought I'd revive this thread as I'm planning a bit of a trip myself ;)

Anyone any good things to add or a list of things that you wish you'd never bought?

If they take all that food they aren't much good at hunting.
All they really need to take is the plough disc, makes a fantastic barbie.

Backs4more
22nd Dec 2005, 11:41
I tend to keep it simple....

Sleeping system (Bag, bivvie bag and half a role mat)
small micro gas burner and fuel
a pot to cook in, and the stove and bits fit in it.
Food in the way of boil in the bag stuff as you can use the water for tea/coffee once you have cooked your meal.
A spoon!


Thats about it...maybe a pair of pants/socks and spare trousers/top.

I guess I am so used to carrying a rifle, ammunition, grenades/smoke cannisters/entrnching tool, if really unlucky a Light Anti-tank Weapon etc etc I really try to get my personnal kit as small and light as possible.


When fishing for a week or so...well..I fill a 110 with bivvies, bedchairs, loads of food, double burnet, small coolbox that runs of the lighter socket, several gallons of water etc etc and live out the back of the Landy.

Cannonball Bob
14th Jan 2006, 00:18
Agree with Backs4more and for short trips take:
sleeping bag, bivvi bag, roll mat and shelter sheet
Peak one multi fuel stove (run on avaition fuel! Winner!)
Camping saucepan with folding handle in which is all the stuff to make a brew, plus a couple of boil in the bag nicities.
AVOID AMERICAN MRE'S AT ALL COST
Wooden spoons are better than metal ones, they don't burn your mouth after being used to stir stuff!
Also got a small candle lantern, lasts longer than batteries, easier than paraffin.
Also got a twin burner and 3.9kg gas bottle for in the Disco. :D

And I can't believe no one has mentioned (or did I miss it) taking those ickle yellow foam ear plugs to ensure a nice quiet lie-in. ;)

Iris
6th Feb 2006, 15:22
I just take the Oryx my dog and the Land-Rover
Ok and a bottle off single malt:D

Iris

BigJim
6th Feb 2006, 19:59
I just take the Oryx my dog and the Land-Rover
Ok and a bottle off single malt:D

Iris

Good taste in drink
and a nice website.

We gave up caravans long ago, can make ourselves comfortable in a tent, and no need to tow.

jiffyman
8th Feb 2006, 21:38
Used to do the tenting thing, and love it until I bought this............

Correus
19th Feb 2006, 01:40
Hey Slime

A Trangia! Why?
Admitedly when me girlie is around she brings her dads dual hob and grill gas cooker! Some reason she refuses to eat out of mess tins and off a trangia! Oh well!

Geo.

What is a "trangia"? :confused:

Larry

Correus
19th Feb 2006, 02:16
1x Haybox oven - ask me and i will tell all.

Okay, what's an "haybox oven"?

Larry

Correus
19th Feb 2006, 02:33
"AVOID AMERICAN MRE'S AT ALL COST"

Having served in the US Army I can fully understand your statement!


Larry

Correus
19th Feb 2006, 02:37
I just take the Oryx my dog and the Land-Rover
Ok and a bottle off single malt:D

Iris


Iris,

What type of trailer is that that you pull? :D

Larry

Woodparts
19th Feb 2006, 11:10
What is a "trangia"? :confused:

Larry

It's a Swedish cooking set that runs on meths. It'll work in a force 10 (in fact it prefers the wind) does not need gas bottles to carry, one litre of meths will last you a few good days @ 3 meals a day!.

I carry one as a force of habit even tho we have two bitumen burners (Fokkers) and electric stuff too. It beats Hexy Telly as it does not stink and make everything glazed black.

worth a look if you're going to be away from civilisation but... some places don't sell meths, however, Polish Vodka, and cheap schnapps works (as does aftershave - don't ask!)

BigJim
19th Feb 2006, 11:53
we have two bitumen burners (Fokkers)



Hexy Telly

What are they?

Woodparts
19th Feb 2006, 13:56
What are they?


Hexy Telly = Hexamine burners issued to Brit Army to cook with. Small steel folding stand on which you burn solid hexamine fuel tablets. Hexy Telly because when you're out in the Boonies it's as good as television!

Bitumen burners are propane burner rings used to melt pots of roofing tar. When used with propane and a regualtor they make great cooking rings.

HTH
'Parts:p

BigJim
19th Feb 2006, 17:22
Hexy Telly = Hexamine burners issued to Brit Army to cook with. Small steel folding stand on which you burn solid hexamine fuel tablets. Hexy Telly because when you're out in the Boonies it's as good as television!

Bitumen burners are propane burner rings used to melt pots of roofing tar. When used with propane and a regualtor they make great cooking rings.

HTH
'Parts:p

Thanks, I'm familiar with both of them but under different names.