N Wales Green Lane Day 28th May

[LandyV8]

I'm organising a green lane day in North Wales for Saturday 28th May 2005. We will meet up at McDonalds car park just off the A5 at Chirk. see map (SJ 30097 39707) at 10am. Who wants to come?



Cheers



Lewis

[Pete H]

Pencil us in.

[Hoodoo]

Lewis,
Remember the Wayfarer is still subject of a TRO. Not for much longer, though. Can't come quick enough!!
Regards,

[jjsaul]

Put us down for a place, altho its no definate yet (i havnt asked mum and dad :p , but it doesnt clash with any of my exams)...

[bulkhead ali]

Would have loved to have come and joined you Lewis, but Tim and I will be at Hartington Quarry for the public playday:rolleyes: hope you get a good little group together. Send any pics on the forum.

cheers,Ali;)

[steve@offroadin]

Stick me down too :)

[LandyV8]

Lewis,
Remember the Wayfarer is still subject of a TRO. Not for much longer, though. Can't come quick enough!!
Regards,
Thanks Hoodoo. I wont be doing the Wayfarer this time, just a few other lanes I have marked out. I will check there status before I venture out.



Cheers

[alankemp]

If you can stand to have me and my Disco along I would like to come. All work now complete, the low tow bar is gone, new bumpers front and back, winch, 2" lift, diff guards that dont fall off, rock sliders and jacking points all round.


Oh and I've been practicing. Hope to have some waffle board and gloves by then..

[LandyV8]

If you can stand to have me and my Disco along I would like to come. All work now complete, the low tow bar is gone, new bumpers front and back, winch, 2" lift, diff guards that dont fall off, rock sliders and jacking points all round.


Oh and I've been practicing. Hope to have some waffle board and gloves by then..
i would be great if you could come along Alan. the disco sound good. Do you have any pictures of the mods?

[whitewolf]

We'd love to tag along...stick us down:D

[alankemp]

i would be great if you could come along Alan. the disco sound good. Do you have any pictures of the mods?

Thanks for the reply Lewis. Seems I may be at Robin Hoods bay that weekend but am working on a wangle so I can turn up there on Saturday night.

Pics of the mods will be up shortly as soon as the insurance pay out for my digi camera which got a little soggy when I drowned my Disco.http://www.landrovernet.com/forum/images/icons/icon9.gif

Not forgot the video of Stanage but its a little short for a full DVD.

[StrangeRover]

If you can stand to have me and my Disco along I would like to come. All work now complete, the low tow bar is gone, new bumpers front and back, winch, 2" lift, diff guards that dont fall off, rock sliders and jacking points all round.


Oh and I've been practicing. Hope to have some waffle board and gloves by then..

Father Christmas came to Broadbottom early this year.
Look forward to meeting you again Alan.
Cheers, Lewis's Old Man.

[alankemp]

He did come early but he took an IOU on my Triumph Thunderbird which he is going to sell to pay for the addons.

I will post it for sale in the next couple of weeks.:confused:
Any takers...

Looking forward to meeting everyone agian in Wales.

[paul (panda)]

sorry lewis , cant make that weekend .

;)

[Pete H]

Pencil us in.

Pencil us OUT,sorry carnt make it,just booked a holiday in south wales :rolleyes:

Thanks for the invite anyways,might be able to make the next one :rolleyes:

[LandyV8]

Pencil us OUT,sorry carnt make it,just booked a holiday in south wales :rolleyes:

Thanks for the invite anyways,might be able to make the next one :rolleyes:
Thanks for letting me know Pete. hope you have a nice weekend.

[LandyV8]

ok so far we have....

LandyV8 (me) - Lewis
Hoodoo - John
Steve@offroadin - Steve
White Wolf -
JJsaul - James - not definate
Alankemp - Alan - not definate

If I have missed anyone off then please copy the list and add your names. At the moment we will be ok with the one convoy. If there are any more vehicles we are going to have to split the convoy. So a volunteer will be required to lead the second convoy.

Cheers

[Geobloke]

Would love to come! but can't! not til after july anyway!

Hope you all have a great time!! and take pics! we all want to see what you have got up to!!

[Pete H]

Would love to come! but can't! not til after july anyway!


Thats because the last time Geo went laning in north wales he has this habit of ripping off side steps.........

[Geobloke]

Thats because the last time Geo went laning in north wales he has this habit of ripping off side steps.........

Is true! but I do have a spare one now so I should be ok on that front!!!!

Sarky ******!

[Pete H]

Oh yes almost forgot,he turns up 3 hours late too :D :D

[Geobloke]

Oh yes almost forgot,he turns up 3 hours late too :D :D

Ha ha ha ha! yes I got the time wrong! Cuh you make 1 mistake and your labelled for life! I tell ya!! :p

[Hoodoo]

Lewis,
Not quite sure how I came to be going but I'm afraid I'm otherwise engaged on the 28th. Sorry! Our Club is having a three day meeting over the BH period, (Sat., Sun., Mon.) at Coney Green, near Bewdley, and I'm going to that on the 28th. If the laning falls through, you could always come along too.
We could do with some Land Rovers to practice our recovery techniques on!! ;)
Regards,

[LandyV8]

LandyV8 (me) - Lewis
Steve@offroadin - Steve
White Wolf -
JJsaul - James - not definate
Alankemp - Alan - not definate

[jjsaul]

Lewis,
Not quite sure how I came to be going but I'm afraid I'm otherwise engaged on the 28th. Sorry! Our Club is having a three day meeting over the BH period, (Sat., Sun., Mon.) at Coney Green, near Bewdley, and I'm going to that on the 28th. If the laning falls through, you could always come along too.
We could do with some Land Rovers to practice our recovery techniques on!! ;)
Regards,

ooh coney green :)

we've had some fun there :p

anyways its laning hopefully, i think ive nearly persuded mum, although ive been told im paying for the fuel if i want to come :eek:

[Mike_Hammond]

OK I'm in, if you'll have me ;)

[LandyV8]

LandyV8 (me) - Lewis
Steve@offroadin - Steve
White Wolf -
Mike_Hammond - Mike
JJsaul - James - not definate
Alankemp - Alan - not definate

[ginaa68]

I'll get in touch with Paul VP - he's offline waiting for internet connection at the mo. Ben, Rob - if you ring him first can you let him know?

Gaynor

[steve@offroadin]

really must get the landy finished and mot'd :eek:

[Mike_Hammond]

Pull yer finger out and get some work done you might just make it :p


:Tbirdstwo

[steve@offroadin]

Final parts arrive tomorrow, no excuses then, except for a steering column nut though :eek:

[Mike_Hammond]

except for a steering column nut though :eek:


Thats what welders are for :D

[LandyV8]

hope you get it sorted steve so you can make it. have fun

[Saratoga]

Ha ha ha ha! yes I got the time wrong! Cuh you make 1 mistake and your labelled for life! I tell ya!! :p

Look on the brightside... It was your own vehicle and you didn't dent a £185,000 truck.... :o :o :o :eek: :eek:

[Saratoga]

I might try and come via JJSaul's spare passenger seat... If all goes to plan and I get the rest of my life in order by then.

That is the weekend I loose the car and sort my life out before a month abroad... :D

[jjsaul]

I might try and come via JJSaul's spare passenger seat... If all goes to plan and I get the rest of my life in order by then.

That is the weekend I loose the car and sort my life out before a month abroad... :D

more unannounced visitors :eek: :p :D

[Saratoga]

more unannounced visitors :eek: :p :D

Oh well. So much for that idea then... :(

[Mike_Hammond]

Lewis, have you got any particular routes planned? I'd be interested to know where we're going :) ta

[JamesD]

might be able to make it as long as i can get the time off work!

[jjsaul]

we may be staying at some friends in merseyside on the evening after laning so a lift could be out of the question.... sorry mate :(

[Saratoga]

we may be staying at some friends in merseyside on the evening after laning so a lift could be out of the question.... sorry mate :(

If (a) hadn't have happened then I could have come and stopped with my brother who lives in wrexham. However (a) is that I have to get rid of the car that day and the only chance to do it is then, as I'm off the following week.

Just got to work out now if I want to hire a Santana when I'm out in Spain and do a bit of off-roading when I'm out there... It's only $600 euros :D :D :D

Spose I shall have to take some photos for you :D :D

[LandyV8]

Lewis, have you got any particular routes planned? I'd be interested to know where we're going :) tayou have PM

[LandyV8]

LandyV8 (me) - Lewis
Steve@offroadin - Steve
White Wolf -
Mike_Hammond - Mike
JJsaul - James - not definate
Alankemp - Alan - not definate
JamesD - James - not definate

[alankemp]

Alan is now definate, I may bring my 14 yr old along as he likes playing with the CB. (not that we have spoken to anyone yet as we are on the learning curve).


Lewis, I now have memory map, could you send me the same pm so I can overlay the route, if not, I can record the route as we go..

[Strange Rover]

LandyV8 (me) - Lewis
Steve@offroadin - Steve
White Wolf -
Mike_Hammond - Mike
JJsaul - James - not definate
Alankemp - Alan - not definate
JamesD - James - not definate
Strangerover - Mark - Definate

I have not met any of you guys but have done a couple of off road days in my old tank...

Time to try out the avon tyres 7.50 x 16

I'll be traveling over from Liverpool might have 1 or 2 mates (neghbour) with me... hope thats ok ? You will here my little Perkins 3.9 from about the wrexham turn off of the A483 !

[Mike_Hammond]

You will here my little Perkins 3.9 from about the wrexham turn off of the A483 !

I hope its not too loud the last thing we want to do is upset the Ramblers ;)

[Strange Rover]

LOL...

It is not too bad really... when I got it it had no exhaust system.... at all !

It now has a full V8 system and is not blowing, but compared to my company Avensis its loud ! I have driven 600 miles in one day and it did not make me deaf ;)

[Mike_Hammond]

Pardon :D

[jjsaul]

unless there is any kind of family emergency we're coming.

Lewis, any chance you could send me the mem-map overlays and i'll have a play with my PDA :D

[whitewolf]

can I have the MM overlays aswell please Lewis :D

cheers

[LandyV8]

Unfortunatly I do not have the route set out on memory-map. I only have it on Fugawi. You guys will just have to track it as we go along.

Before anyone else puts there names down I will need a volunteer to lead a second convoy. Maps will be provided. Otherwise we will have to chop numbers. I will not take more than 5 vehicles in a convoy.

so far we have

LandyV8 (me) - Lewis
Steve@offroadin - Steve
White Wolf -
Mike_Hammond - Mike
Strangerover - Mark
JJsaul - James
Alankemp - Alan
JamesD - James - not definate

[whitewolf]

Fugawi...???

Sounds contagous, do you use ointment for that or pills? lmao:D

[LandyV8]

Fugawi...???

Sounds contagous, do you use ointment for that or pills? lmao:D nah its a digital maping software. name is shoft for "where the F@*k are we.":D

[Mike_Hammond]

Lewis, I'm happy to lead a group if needed ;)

[LandyV8]

Lewis, I'm happy to lead a group if needed ;)
Thanks Mike. I will let you know the route deatails soon.

Cheers

[alankemp]

mmmm, now let me think, Defender, Disco, Defender, Disco, mmmmm, Disco I think cos Ive got to drive to Robin Hoods Bay after a day int ills. The defender not kitted out either. Mind you the Disco's not running...mmmm

[jjsaul]

ive got fugawi i think, but no maps :rolleyes:

whereabouts are we ending up lewis?

[steve@offroadin]

Landy MOT is Friday :eek: Cross fingers people cause if it fails I wont have time to fix it :(

[LandyV8]

LandyV8 (me) - Lewis
White Wolf -
Mike_Hammond - Mike
Strangerover - Mark
JJsaul - James
Alankemp - Alan
Steve@offroadin - Steve - if he gets a MOT!
JamesD - James - not definate

[deano]

hi lads would like to tag along, if thats ok. will follow mike up ?? will be in disco 200tdi. deano

[Strange Rover]

I'm really looking forward to Saturday....

I'm traveling from Liverpool, via Runcorn bridge and then M56

if anyone wants to meet along the way... ring me... 07799668928...

I hope we have some "interesting" lanes !! not just gengtle grass paths ;)

[LandyV8]

hi lads would like to tag along, if thats ok. will follow mike up ?? will be in disco 200tdi. deano Thants fine Deano. it will be good to meet some new members.

LandyV8 (me) - Lewis (i'll be in the Range Rover)
White Wolf -
Mike_Hammond - Mike
Strangerover - Mark
JJsaul - James
Alankemp - Alan
Deano
Steve@offroadin - Steve - if he gets a MOT!

[Strange Rover]

Thants fine Deano. it will be good to meet some new members.

LandyV8 (me) - Lewis (i'll be in the Range Rover)
White Wolf -
Mike_Hammond - Mike
Strangerover - Mark
JJsaul - James
Alankemp - Alan
Deano
Steve@offroadin - Steve - if he gets a MOT!

Lewis... your not the only Range Rover mate :smart: , I'll be in the tough as nails look rangie ! these poxy little defenders have no comfort for my tatse :shakehead .

look forward to meeting you guys... and testing my freshly fitted QT's !

[LandyV8]

I would normally use the 110 but I’m preparing the body work for a repaint so I'm going to use the Range Rover this weekend.

[whitewolf]

Unfortunatly I may not be able to join you all this weekend.:( ......My hub bearings are "fubard" and the new ones only arrived this afternoon ( less one hub seal, GGGRRRRRR).so It doesnt look I'm gonna have time to do them both before saturday.

sorry guys....next time eh.( unless a mirical happens )
at least I'll still be playing with the landie:p .just under it not in it

[LandyV8]

Unfortunatly I may not be able to join you all this weekend.:( ...... Sorry you cant make it. well you know where we are if you sort it in time.

LandyV8 (me) - Lewis (i'll be in the Range Rover)
Mike_Hammond - Mike
Strangerover - Mark
JJsaul - James
Alankemp - Alan
Deano
Steve@offroadin - Steve - if he gets a MOT!

[Mike_Hammond]

I hope we have some "interesting" lanes !! not just gengtle grass paths ;)

Remember we're Green Laning, not a play day we don't want to be upsetting the locals :nonono: . But saying that I'll enjoy watching your soft barge of a Rangie butt dragging down the Pheasant Steps :D :p LOL


Lewis, I've dropped your route onto MM now so I'll mail you the overlay tomorrow from work, the lanes you have look good just hope its not too wet, last time I was over that way some of them we're looking well used and quite deeply rutted :o I've noticed a PH symbol next to the finish point.....was that a cunning plan :guiness:

[Mike_Hammond]

hi lads would like to tag along, if thats ok. will follow mike up ?? will be in disco 200tdi. deano

Good man Deano, nice to see you made it ;) do you want to meet at the bottom of the lane by the church in Weston at say 9.15 ? then we can shoot out via Wem, Ellesmere and St Martins to get over to Chirk services, its only about 30 minutes so we should have plenty of time for a chat and a mooch around that new Disco of yours ;)

[jjsaul]

But saying that I'll enjoy watching your soft barge of a Rangie butt dragging down the Pheasant Steps

uh oh!

we're the ones with a saggy **** cos i aint changed our rear springs yet :eek:

[Mike_Hammond]

uh oh!

we're the ones with a saggy **** cos i aint changed our rear springs yet :eek:

Slow and steady you'll be OK you've got a real Landy ;) not one of these luxo barges :D

[Pete H]

uh oh!

we're the ones with a saggy **** cos i aint changed our rear springs yet :eek:
Sounds like your in for a good time then :eek: :D

The steps are good ;)

[deano]

sounds tip top to me !!!! 9-15am it is, but one question where is weston ???

[Strange Rover]

Remember we're Green Laning, not a play day we don't want to be upsetting the locals :nonono: . But saying that I'll enjoy watching your soft barge of a Rangie butt dragging down the Pheasant Steps :D :p LOL




No upsetting locals ! some of them are my customers !!!!!
and they are mighty pi55ed off!
Mainly with a couple of things..

1) gates.... not closing afterwards
2) not sticking to tracks... IMO if a track is really bad avoid it and let it dry.. hence i like rocky ones !)
3) convoys over 8 ! 8 seems to be a number that is getting too much so i was pleased to see we will go in groups of 5.

On the whole farmers understand that they have rights of way and don't mind people off roading so long as they respect the place,

I'm looking forward to it anyway...
any chance of passing through corwen car wash at the end of the day ? helps clean the under carriage ....

one more thing.... whats wrong with a luxxo barge ? i have good heater and arm rests but thats about it for luxury.....

[Mike_Hammond]

one more thing.... whats wrong with a luxxo barge ? i have good heater and arm rests but thats about it for luxury.....

:fiddle:



you started it :D


..............I'll be in the tough as nails look rangie ! these poxy little defenders have no comfort for my tatse.

I've got Leather seats and a working heater in my 90 :p :D :D

[Strange Rover]

:fight: so i did.... and ??? :D

:shhhh: but don't tell anyone.

on a different note...

anyone any idea of the weather for the weekend ?

[steve@offroadin]

Well I have scuppered my weekend, just fried the ignition on the landy :( Nice burning smell from the dizzy as I wired the coil up wrong, ********.
Still the wings and doors are on, and all the other electrics still work :)

[Mike_Hammond]

Well I have scuppered my weekend, just fried the ignition on the landy :( Nice burning smell from the dizzy as I wired the coil up wrong, ********.
Still the wings and doors are on, and all the other electrics still work :)

A new set of points and a condensor will sort the Dizzy out, there's naff all else in there to fry ? after all your hard work your gonna let some minor electrics stop you now :confused:

[Strange Rover]

as above...

there is diddley squat in the dizzy !
should be easy fix really....

good luck

[steve@offroadin]

wiring to and from the coil all fried, inc some into the loom :eek: quite a few stuck together with the heat too :(

[Mike_Hammond]

Its only Tuesday you've got loadsa time, come on stop being a big girl and get it sorted, soldering iron, some heatshrink and tape will soon get it sorted. ;)

[steve@offroadin]

err 2 nights really, dropping it off for the mot thursday night due to work, so will see how it goes

[Pete H]

Just so you are all aware,there is a comercial outfit operating in the area on that day(28th),they plan to meet at Corwen at 09.45.

Tis just summat ive found on the web....

[Strange Rover]

would that be simply 4x4 ?
if it is Keith goes on all the nice none damaging none scratching lanes...
nice guy if its them ! its who i cut my off road teeth with....

[Pete H]

its is the very peeps,it was those who i first went out with,never again im afraid,had a right nightmare,but then thats a different story altogether.:eek:

Enjoy your day out with the lads off here ;)

[LandyV8]

anyone any idea of the weather for the weekend ? Weather looks to be good for the weekend with no rain in site from friday. should be about 15 celsius.

[graham]

Not sure what lanes you are doing, but I'm in the Conway area over the weekend so will look out for you, have a good day bring some pics back. ;)

[ROB 110 HICAP]

its is the very peeps,it was those who i first went out with,never again im afraid,had a right nightmare,but then thats a different story altogether.:eek:

Enjoy your day out with the lads off here ;)

I've met one of the simply4x4 crowd round Rhayader, talked for england and seemed to be big into caravans and large groups of vehicles on byways.

What was your experience Pete?

[steve@offroadin]

have to count me out, she's running fine now but unless i find a steering wheen nut today it wont be mot'd tomorrow :(

[Mike_Hammond]

A Nut ?? Andrew Richards has a 110 down in his yard he is breaking which is nigh on complete, also there are the remnants of a 90 in Furbers, not sure whats left on it though.

Don't forget BHP too they have quite a few breakers ;)

[LandyV8]

have to count me out, she's running fine now but unless i find a steering wheen nut today it wont be mot'd tomorrow :( Sorry you can make it Steve. if you get a MOT just let us know and we will see you on sat.

LandyV8 (me) - Lewis (i'll be in the Range Rover)
Mike_Hammond - Mike
Strangerover - Mark
JJsaul - James
Alankemp - Alan
Deano

[steve@offroadin]

A Nut ?? Andrew Richards has a 110 down in his yard he is breaking which is nigh on complete, also there are the remnants of a 90 in Furbers, not sure whats left on it though.

Don't forget BHP too they have quite a few breakers ;)

no one is breaking a 300tdi, thats the nut i need, like rocking horse poo it seems :(

[Mike_Hammond]

Disco's, Rangies or Freebies ?

What about other makes & models ? Got to be worth an hour round Furbers something has to fit.
Also if I remember correctly there's a place round the back of Mullers that do industrial fixings i.e. Nuts, Bolts etc etc you never know ? Just some ideas

Had a look in the garage and the sheds tonight but I've got nothing with a fine thread in metric, but I'll keep my eyes peeled.

[alankemp]

have to count me out, she's running fine now but unless i find a steering wheen nut today it wont be mot'd tomorrow :(

Steve, If you want to come, I could pick you up on my way. Its quicker if you give me a ring if you want to come.You have a pm with number. If I don't hear from you I will assume you have your Landy road legal or whatever.

[alankemp]

Lewis, just to save me reading all replies, are we still meeting at the place in the thread starter. Anyone using CB, if so what channel, had mine for a couple of weeks now and still not actually talked to anyone yet.

[LandyV8]

Lewis, just to save me reading all replies, are we still meeting at the place in the thread starter. Anyone using CB, if so what channel, had mine for a couple of weeks now and still not actually talked to anyone yet. Hi Alan. yes we are still meeting at 10am at McDees car park. i would normaly use my CB but ill be in the Range Rover on sat and that doesnt have one.

please can everyone be there for 10am so we can start on the lanes as soon as pos.

Cheers

[Strange Rover]

just checking, its the McD's of the A483 at the roundabout near Kronospan ?

(as in pass wrexham keep straight, over high bridge and then roundabout ??)

I'll be leaving Liverpool 8 - 8:30 am

[Mike_Hammond]

Sounds about right to me, see you there :)

[steve@offroadin]

Deffo a no no for me, thanks for the lift offer Alan but some shopping to do now (some of it landy bits, just dont tell the missus ;) )

[Strange Rover]

one of my tappets has just thrown a wobler !
went to fill up for tomorrow and I'm getting "tap tap tap"...

Sod it.. will sort some other time.. too late now !

its only a tappet, its not like my engine revs high !

[deano]

just like to say thanks to everyone for a tip top day out !!! and how nice it was to meet a few new faces, and return home with a undamaged disco ( touch wood ) apart from a few scratches.

[Mike_Hammond]

Good day out, so here goes with the first installement of pics

[Mike_Hammond]

Thanks to Lewis for leading the day

[Mike_Hammond]

and some more

[Mike_Hammond]

wheres my aerial gone :D

[jjsaul]

nice pics mike!

cheers for organising the route lewis, was a really good day out :)

i'm about to sort my pics out now so should have them online shortly.

oh and we found our way back to the A5 eventually having gone the wrong way for the 3rd time today :D

[Mike_Hammond]

You only had to turn left out of the pub and follow the signs for Chirk, remind me not to follow you laning ;) besides which that Gas gives me a headache :D ;) LOL

What happened to StrangeRover did the Tappet stop him, anyone know ?

[jjsaul]

yes he texted me this morning to say he couldnt come cos his engine died.


we did turn left out the pub, and then halfway along there (dad mapreading, me doing about 60mph :D ) we we're unsure if we were going the right direction....
then when we got back to the A5 we went left thinking the LPG station was that way so we ended up going all the way back to McD's before realising and turning round.
we then found the LPG place and the pump was the slowest thing on this planet....it took about 15 mins to put 40 litres in :eek:
finally we got going and i was making progress down the A5, didnt take us too long to get home :D

[jjsaul]

piccies all here

http://photobucket.com/albums/y176/jjsaul/Wales%2028th%20May%202005/

theyre all in random order :( blame photobucket cos i uploaded them in the correct order :rolleyes:

[Mike_Hammond]

Good set of pics there JJ well done :)

P.S.slightly off topic, but thinking about your V8 setup you'd get better fuel consumption and also a bit more power if you got a cold air feed to those carbs, they'll be pulling in a load of hot air from under the bonnet as they are, it'd be easy to setup a snorkel for it. Also you quiet often see V8's with vent holes in the rear edges of the bonnet to help the heat escape. just a thought ;)

[jjsaul]

Good set of pics there JJ well done :)
Thank you, if anyone wants any higher res. pics of their landy etc just drop me an email at the below address giving me the pic no.



P.S.slightly off topic, but thinking about your V8 setup you'd get better fuel consumption and also a bit more power if you got a cold air feed to those carbs, they'll be pulling in a load of hot air from under the bonnet as they are, it'd be easy to setup a snorkel for it. Also you quiet often see V8's with vent holes in the rear edges of the bonnet to help the heat escape. just a thought ;)
Could well be the hot air thing...its something we need to look into in the coming weeks...... :rolleyes:

[Strange Rover]

Hi all,

Tappet became big ends !

I loaned my rangie to a mate who fixes trucks for a living, got it back Friday night, while giving him a lift home i hear this tapping noise, my mate tells me it was only a tappet, he fixes trucks so I believe him...

anyway, Saturday morningheading down M57 noise gets louder and i seem down on power.....

End of knowsley express way and i depress the clutch and loose all oil pressure when engine idles and i hear a bang bang bang noise ! and have no power !

so call break down people, and text James.

Car had so little power it stalled driving onto the recovery wagon... so I'm not happy.

Upshot... I have a spare 2.5 TD engine from a transit van which I was going to sell, will now fit it and probably sell rangie....

But now on the look out for a 3 door Disco that i can fit all my bits onto !!

Really disapointed I missed the day !!!!!!!!! and now having seen pictures even more disapointed !!!

[LandyV8]

sorry you didnt make it Strange Rover. maybe next time. we had a great time as you can see from the pictures. i will upload mine on tues from work.. i have very slow dial up at home. well thanks to everone that came. i will arrange something again soon, i was thinking of a 2 day laning with a nighs camping. what you think?

[graham]

Look like you all had a great time :)

[whitewolf]

great pics JJ....looks like you all have fun, wish I could have come.

Next time:)

[jjsaul]

great pics JJ....looks like you all have fun, wish I could have come.

Next time:)


Thank you :)

That reminds me, did you get my email ???

[Hoodoo]

Great pics. That's a nice route you chose! Glad to see my sign's still there!!!
Regards,

[jjsaul]

Great pics. That's a nice route you chose! Glad to see my sign's still there!!!
Regards,

Which was your sign then???
:rolleyes:

[Hoodoo]

To the side of the water dip by the gate on the figure of eight at the back of Llanarmon. Reads 'Riders Deep Ruts'
A horse rider rode her horse into them a while back and she and the horse went over. Silly thing to do really as the depth wasn't known, and the horse could easily have broken a leg. Council were told but have done nothing, so I put the sign up.
See your photos 16, 18, 19 on page two of your album. Sign to the left, rear.
Regards,

[jjsaul]

I had to look back at the pictures, i didnt even notice the sign when we were there :D

[Mike_Hammond]

i will arrange something again soon, i was thinking of a 2 day laning with a nighs camping. what you think?

Cool, I wouldn't mind doing something in the peaks as I've not ventured over that way yet. Also a two dayer gives folks time to get to know each other a bit better without having to rush around to get the lanes done in time.


............. wish I could have come.

Next time

Damian, just say the word and I'll take you round the area, we've got a spare bed if you and Liz want to stop over and have a drink or two after a day out laning ;) ( just not next weekend I'm away in France for a few days )

Thanks again Lewis, good route :)

[jjsaul]

Damian, just say the word and I'll take you round the area, we've got a spare bed if you and Liz want to stop over and have a drink or two after a day out laning ;) ( just not next weekend I'm away in France for a few days )


And if you do , give us a shout and we can sort that lightbar out, its not far to pop over to the land of Mr Hammond :D

[Mike_Hammond]

we can sort that lightbar out

lightbars and trees don't mix :D or is that aerials :D sorry Allen ;)

[jjsaul]

lightbars and trees don't mix :D or is that aerials :D sorry Allen ;)

ROFL :D

[Pete H]

Looks looks like you guys had a good day,we drove some of those lanes a while back,JJ how did the 110 cope with the Lawnt?

[jjsaul]

Looks looks like you guys had a good day,we drove some of those lanes a while back,JJ how did the 110 cope with the Lawnt?

The lawnt being where??? :rolleyes:

And we didnt get stuck anywhere and all our sills are intact so must have coped, and i havnt even sorted the rear suspension yet :p

[Mike_Hammond]

Pheasant Pen Steps

[Pete H]

The lawnt being where??? :rolleyes:



Pheasant Pen steps..

[jjsaul]

that this bit???

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/jjsaul/Wales%2028th%20May%202005/IMG_6413small.jpg

[Pete H]

Oh Yea..Thats the bit.

[Geobloke]

Looks like you guys and gals had a good day out!


did anyone find any bits of my side steps???? :rolleyes: ;)

Oh gaud JJ got thro unscathed and I didn't how am I ever gonna live it down!?!? :( :(

:D

[jjsaul]

Yer no problems at all.

We walked it first and lewis explained how to tackle them safely and we all got down with no problems at all :)

[jjsaul]

Looks like you guys and gals had a good day out!


did anyone find any bits of my side steps???? :rolleyes: ;)

Oh gaud JJ got thro unscathed and I didn't how am I ever gonna live it down!?!? :( :(

:D

thats where you lost your steps .... hahahaha :D :p

[Geobloke]

thats where you lost your steps .... hahahaha :D :p

Nah got rearranged in one of the deep holes before the decent to the steps! daft mistake! and so peeps know none of the step was ripped off or left behind just merely displaced 15cm to the rear of Eva!!! ;)

[Pete H]

Nah got rearranged in one of the deep holes before the decent to the steps! daft mistake! and so peeps know none of the step was ripped off or left behind just merely displaced 15cm to the rear of Eva!!! ;)


:yikes:

http://www.landrovernet.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16408

[jjsaul]

Thats what you get for having girly steps on your landy :D

[Geobloke]

Thats what you get for having girly steps on your landy :D

So sayd the man with the "angel eye" headlights!!!! Girly indeed! :D

[alankemp]

nice pics mike!
oh and we found our way back to the A5 eventually having gone the wrong way for the 3rd time today :D

I followed you turning left at Chirk and realised I was going the wrong way. When I got back to the roundabout near Mcdonalds, I saw you doing a 360, maybe I should have followed you after all.

Cheers Lewis, another great day out. Must go back and do the pheasant steps the other way.

Good pics Mike, I have pinched a few for my collection. The reception on my radio seems to have improved.

JJ, did your V8 cool down and behave??

I arrived at Robin Hoods Bay after 3.5 hours, with a couple of fuel stops. Did you notice the wind in the trees when leaving the lanes, well in RHB it trashed over 35 tents, and I mean ripped them to shreds.

[Geobloke]

I arrived at Robin Hoods Bay after 3.5 hours, with a couple of fuel stops. Did you notice the wind in the trees when leaving the lanes, well in RHB it trashed over 35 tents, and I mean ripped them to shreds.

Oooo great place RHB, amazing fossils to be had down on the beach! HUGE ammonites and belemites too! :D

[jjsaul]

I followed you turning left at Chirk and realised I was going the wrong way. When I got back to the roundabout near Mcdonalds, I saw you doing a 360, maybe I should have followed you after all.

Cheers Lewis, another great day out. Must go back and do the pheasant steps the other way.

Good pics Mike, I have pinched a few for my collection. The reception on my radio seems to have improved.

JJ, did your V8 cool down and behave??

I arrived at Robin Hoods Bay after 3.5 hours, with a couple of fuel stops. Did you notice the wind in the trees when leaving the lanes, well in RHB it trashed over 35 tents, and I mean ripped them to shreds.

Hehe, i wondered why you suddenly turned off behind us before getting to the A5, we must have caught up with you again, i didnt see you though when i was going round the roundabout, probably trying not to hit anything :D

After driving through them deep puddles it cooled down and stayed cool, strange innit :rolleyes:

Pheasant steps the other way.....count us out of that one :eek: :p

[Geobloke]

Pheasant steps the other way.....count us out of that one :eek: :p

Chicken!

I'me game! [excuse the pun] would be great fun!

[Pete H]

Chicken!

I'me game! [excuse the pun] would be great fun!

just give us the nod,were up for it ;)

[jjsaul]

Maybe once ive sorted the rear suspension :)

[Geobloke]

Maybe once ive sorted the rear suspension :)

Excuses excuses! ;)

[LandyV8]

here are my pictures

[LandyV8]

more.....

[LandyV8]

thats ya lot

[jjsaul]

Some really good pics there :)

[Geobloke]

Some really good pics there :)

I second that! nice one Lewis! :D

[whitewolf]

Damian, just say the word and I'll take you round the area, we've got a spare bed if you and Liz want to stop over and have a drink or two after a day out laning ;) ( just not next weekend I'm away in France for a few days )

Thanks again Lewis, good route :)


Nice one Mike, give us a bell when you get back from france.

the peaks sound good:D

[deano]

good pics all round !!!!!:) :) :)

[Golly]

Some great pics there guys. Let me know next time there is a meet would love to come along. I will say one thing did concern me, was the group size. We spend alot of time in talking about this subject and how we should go by GLASS rules. I did notice that you was out in a group of five. Come on guys! there cant be one rule for one and another for you!

[LandyV8]

Some great pics there guys. Let me know next time there is a meet would love to come along. I will say one thing did concern me, was the group size. We spend alot of time in talking about this subject and how we should go by GLASS rules. I did notice that you was out in a group of five. Come on guys! there cant be one rule for one and another for you!
Well as a GLASS member I would always respect the Green Lane Code of conduct and I don’t think 5 vehicles in one convoy is a problem. I would certainly not take more than five at any one time. As stated earlier in this thread I was asking for volunteers to help lead a second convoy if more than 5 vehicles turned up. As it was there was only 5 of us and we didn’t meet anyone else all day. Its the people like simply 4x4 who take 7 un experienced off road drivers out at one time that you should be worried about.

Did anyone who came on the trip have a problem with the number of vehicles in the convoy, or feel we was abusing the Green Lane Code Of Conduct?

[alankemp]

I too am a GLASS member and do not see a problem with 5 vehicles on that particular trip. The lanes were dry and we kept well spaced apart when moving, I dont think we went faster than 8mph whilst off tarmac. As Lewis has said, we saw no other vehicles all day and only 1 pair of walkers who gave a friendly wave. If another vehicle had turned up we would have split into two groups.

[Golly]

Where do we draw the line!!!!!!!!!!!! GLASS say 4 and no more so why the hell is it ok to take 5!!!!

Like I said you cant start making your own rules here. GLASS has drawn a line at 4 vehicles and no more. I have spoken to the GLASS chairman on this very subject when i asked this very question of leeway of group size. So any member who is a member that thinks its ok to take 5 is only contradicting the very rules they agreed to abide to.

I think its also unfair to keep bringing the same old excuse of comercial groups into this. We all know they work in large groups! so why keep using them for a excuse to justify for breaking groups size numbers. Dosnt matter if its 5 or 7 its still over the drawn line!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to rant but I have seen so much bickering about group sizes but it takes the **** when you dont practice what you preech.

[LandyV8]

i see your point. i have checked the GLASS site and it does say 4 or less. so in future i will only lead in convoys of 4 and if there is more i will split them up.

[Pete H]

There is no need to go over to the GLASS site to see the code of conduct,its already here on this very forums,at the top of the general Banter section..


When travelling in groups, keep to a small number - ideally four or less. Split larger parties up and either use a different route or allow a good interval to elapse before following.


In my opinion 4 is more than enough for 1 group....

[Strange Rover]

As a new arrival to off roading I feel I should say something in support of Simply 4x4.

I have wanted to go off road for a while so last November I bought a Range Rover.

I knew that not all lanes I could see had public access as I grew up on a farm in Ireland, but had no idea how to find out where you could and could not go, so I looked on the internet and found links to various off road people... one of which was Simply 4x4.

I tried to find out about lanes on the internet but there is very little information about where you can go off road legaly (well I am stll looking for a list of lanes with public access), its not like you can type in "green lanes in wales" and get a list of places you can go is it ? so I guessed any one doing it commercialy must be doing it legaly, so I went off road with Simply 4x4. At the start of the day he gave a 1 to 1 briefing on eticate namely the importance of driving slow and not spinning wheels, leave the place as you find it, give way to walkers / horses etc. He aven explained that the route could change if it was muddy. I always enjoyed the days out and to be fair they where the least "green" of green lanes, most lanes where gravel type, well used and easy to see.

BUT.. it was during these organised days that I saw the worst abuses of lanes by small groups of 3-4 vehicles. we passed them a couple of times and I saw them leave gates open, cut accross fields etc.

So although I now tend to go off road in a group of 3 - 4 thats because I started with a commercial group and then learned about other web sites from people I met, this lead to better understanding etc and I ended up here !!! ( a nice place I must add)

So which is better... 7 vehicles on known legal routes under some sort of guidance or 4 going abywhere they like at speed ????

I am not a member of GLASS... reason... I'm not sure what its about and do not see much info on their site about where you can go legaly, I'm sure I will get corrected on this point and thats fine I'll know then, but my main point is that its not illegal for groups to go down public access roads and the commercial operators help get people interested in the first place it is from that that a more deeper understanding follows.. isn't that a good thing ?

(not meaning to upset anyone here as these forums have a knack of making things sound wrong)

[jjsaul]

Reason for group of 5 IMHO.

Splitting up into 4 and 1 is stupid, as is 3 and 2. What happens if one of the pair has a problem and the other cant shift it :rolleyes:

I personally think 5 is acceptable (even as GLASS members)

We weren't rushing about and all the ramblers who we met seemed friendly enough.

[Golly]

So you think just because you didnt see anybody all day and all the people you did see was friendly that makes it ok?

I'm sorry but I think this is a poor excuse! Personaly I dont have a problem with groups sizes over 4 but what does wind me up is that everybody is happy to moan about comercial groups running more than 4 (mostly simply 4x4) why is this company name used so much when there are many others operating in north wales in much larger groups of 15+ such as (pro trax) and alike.

I would have to agree with strange rover about simply 4x4 if they was just money grabing and didnt care about safety then why dont we see them operating 15+ in one group.

But getting back to the point! If you are going to abide by the green lane code then do so! Dont change the rules because you think to split 5 up is silly. Maybe u should organize it better next time, so there isnt 5 to split!

[Mike_Hammond]

Reason for group of 5 IMHO.

Splitting up into 4 and 1 is stupid, as is 3 and 2. What happens if one of the pair has a problem and the other cant shift it :rolleyes:

I personally think 5 is acceptable (even as GLASS members)

We weren't rushing about and all the ramblers who we met seemed friendly enough.

I agree to a point, but also remember the GLASS code of conduct is a list of recommendations and as such non enforceable and sometimes it needs a commen sense interpretation. As has been said before, quite a lot of the time we were well spread out, were nothing but curtious to everyone we met, drove around at very low speeds well below the recommended max 12MPH and hence did not have any problems with anyone.

Now, when I got near home with Deano the two of us detoured down a local Shropshire lane and we got confronted by two angry householders complaining about large groups of 4x4s tearing up "their" lane. Now this lane is less than a mile from my home, it is green and leafy with no obvious signs of vehicular traffic and there was only 2 of us !!! just think what they'd have thought if four had turned up. At the end of the day no matter what the group size (within reason) someone is always going to complain, and me thinks Golly has a different agenda here else why is he so keen to resurect the the commercial issue and then defend them, we've already had this discussion and have agreed its not all of them to me its just an excuse to stir an arguement.

To conclude, yes I agree as much as possible we should endeavour to have groups of no more than 4, but I would also say we need to use our commen sense and ensure the safety & welfare of the people involved.


Thats my 2p, I'll say no more ;)

[Golly]

As I said before when I spoke to the GLASS chairman on this very subject at the LRE show last year he said they weren't willing to go by the term recomendation any more, He also told me they had changed the wording used in the code of conduct. From (When travelling in groups, keep to a small number - ideally four or less) It now reads (When travelling in groups, keep to a small number - four or less)

And to excuse me of bring the comercial subject back up is taking things a bit far as the name 4x4 was used in this thread long before I posted. Personaly I dont have a problem with any comercial groups that operate in a safe manor. But thats just my view. I am not a member of GLASS as I dont agree with all there policies. If you have agreed on its not all of them why keep bringing it up in every other post about north wales.

I think you have hit the nail on the head tho, you cant please everyone and never will.

[LandyV8]

Maybe u should organize it better next time, so there isnt 5 to split! Personally I think it was very well organised. Originally there was going to be 8 vehicles turning up which is why Mike offered to lead a 2nd convoy if needed.

Well I’m glad we got that sorted. I think we can all agree that in future when I or anyone else organises a day of fun for us all, that we will keep numbers down to 4 or less in a convoy.

[ROB 110 HICAP]

But what is the limit on the number of convoys? joke

[Mike_Hammond]

I reckon Golley is really Mr Cobley seeking revenge on me for having a go about his Welsh Convoy :D he seems to have an awful lot of opinions and know a lot of history of our threads for a so called newbie to the forum :shhhh:

;)

[Golly]

It happens that I can read!! And it also happens that you do not need to be a registered member to read this forum!

It seem to me that you dont like constructive criticism when it is you in the lime light.

I'm not having a go at anyone here, you all appear to be great guys. I was only making the point that people that preach GLASS guidelines should keep to them and not break what they believe in and what they preach to others. The only people that look silly here are the ones that preach it and then break it.

I think we can all end this now as I dont think there is anything more positive to come out of this discussion. We can all see what the issuie was and what went wrong.

No offence was ment to anyone in particular and I apologise if this was the case. :)

[R0Y]

Hi and welcome to the forums Golly :bigwave:

Maybe now you've registered you might like to stick around and offer more input elsewhere onth e site as well.

[graham]

Been reading this thread and it looks like you all had a great day.

It's very difficult organising laning days as with all best laid plans people will drop out for a number of reasons it would have been ideal to have two groups, but i can understand why they stayed with a group of 5 ;)
If there had been 6 then two groups would be appropriate I'm a member of GLASS if i had been leading the group i would have done the same.

As someone said if you had split and the two got stuck there would have been problems.

Common sense at the end of the day, i know a couple of lanes in the lakes which take you through woodland used by walkers and horse riders, they have narrow tracks with few pacing places, i would not take more than 2 at a time through them.

[Mike_Hammond]

It happens that I can read!! And it also happens that you do not need to be a registered member to read this forum!

It seem to me that you dont like constructive criticism when it is you in the lime light.

I'm not having a go at anyone here, you all appear to be great guys. I was only making the point that people that preach GLASS guidelines should keep to them and not break what they believe in and what they preach to others. The only people that look silly here are the ones that preach it and then break it.

I think we can all end this now as I dont think there is anything more positive to come out of this discussion. We can all see what the issuie was and what went wrong.

No offence was ment to anyone in particular and I apologise if this was the case. :)

You can read, but your spelling is pants :Tbirds1: :D :D :D

later dude ;)

[steve@offroadin]

:heheheheh

[jjsaul]

It happens that I can read!! And it also happens that you do not need to be a registered member to read this forum!

It seem to me that you dont like constructive criticism when it is you in the lime light.

I'm not having a go at anyone here, you all appear to be great guys. I was only making the point that people that preach GLASS guidelines should keep to them and not break what they believe in and what they preach to others. The only people that look silly here are the ones that preach it and then break it.

I think we can all end this now as I dont think there is anything more positive to come out of this discussion. We can all see what the issuie was and what went wrong.

No offence was ment to anyone in particular and I apologise if this was the case. :)


Apology accepted mate.

As mentioned before we were expecting 8, some dropped out (cant blame people if their engine dies on the way here (strangerover ;) :p ) and a pair would have been risky on some of those lanes.

If we had had 6 vehicles we would have split up into 2 x3 but unfortuantely we didnt.

Next time come with us mate and make it 6 :p , im sure you would really enjoy a day out into the lovely welsh countryside :)

[Newsreader]

As said, seems to me enough has been said. Golly has made his point loud and clear, and LandyV8 has responded approrpriately and fairly I feel ... now, handbags down everyone :D

[Mike_Hammond]

Awww Bernie you spoil all the fun http://img.slickdeals.net/images/smilies2/boxing.gif



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[Newsreader]

Awww Bernie you spoil all the fun
:D Yep. killjoy me :D

[Mike_Hammond]

Have you nicked my smilies too ? :confused:

[steve@offroadin]

:LAA: never seems to work for me and the order keeps changing :(

oh it works now :D

[Newsreader]

Have you nicked my smilies too ? :confused:
Nope you tried to use image tags but you can't they're turned off :p Maybe this is what you meant? :fight: :D

[Mike_Hammond]

Nah they we're on cause it worked when I first posted it

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[Mike_Hammond]

See http://img.slickdeals.net/images/smilies2/swordfight.gif

[Newsreader]

See http://img.slickdeals.net/images/smilies2/swordfight.gif
Nope just lots of red crosses ... :Idunno: I can only guess that they were visible to you as they were cached ... anyway we got loads of smilies here, don't need to import all that stuff :D

[Mike_Hammond]

hmm wierd indeed, ho hum :dunno:

[Strange Rover]

To change the subject a little...

I am now mobile in a Landy again

got a Disco 200TDi so should be set to go next green lane day up this way (North West England or North Wales), lets hope this does not die on way to a fun day out !