Mozilla...?

[mike tilley]

I've been using Mozilla Firefox for a few months now and like the way it works...bye bye Internet Explorer. My question is has anyone had any experience of the other Mozilla software for email and newsgroups, if so what are they like compared to the usual suspects like Outlook Express :confused:

Cheers

[EasyMan]

I have moved all my email to Thunderbird, Mozilla's email client, and would never move back to Outlook. The only thing missing is an integrated Calendar, but they are working on this.

It has loads of good features, and is Open source, like all Mozilla products.

link: www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird (http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird)

Hope this helps

John

[nemchenk]

I actually prefer Mozilla to Firefox+Thunderbird, but the reasons are differenes in interface only. IMHO, Mozilla's email client has *long* been superior to Outlook, especially when used in a "professional" environment -- the only thing missing as pointed out before is a calendar/workflow tool, but I think those are better handled by dedicated programs anyway.

Do it -- the learning spamfiltering, learning addressbook, and GPG/PGP plugins will blow your mind :D

[Newsreader]

I have moved all my email to Thunderbird, Mozilla's email client, and would never move back to Outlook.
Hmm, I use Outlook and I'm happy with it. I find it far far better than Outlook Express, especially for work. If I went over to Thunderbird, what exactly would I find better?

[Cocky Lil Guy]

Personally, i don't find Thunderbird better. As i don't have the choice of where i work (or go to school in my case) webmail is best for me as i can check my emails at school, home, on any computer. I could use POP3 and still be able to use webmail else where, but i might as well just use webmail. I have used Thinderbird but didn't find it beneficial. I think jjsaul used it and crashed within the 1st couple of mins! I think Tabbed browsing is far better, and why the hell Microsoft haven't already developed this i don't know!

[jjsaul]

i did try it and it did crash the first time


however outlook express started wiping the bodies of my emails and only displaying the headers, which is obviously no use....

so im slowly trying to move to thunderbird, but seem to have accounts replicated on it several times and it doesnt seem to check them very well....


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firefox however is a superb application for web browsing. once i switched to it ive never looked back, i even somehow managed to install it at school to use :D .....

[olo]

well firefox is basically a gentler approach to how linux computing is done, mozilla are basically a group that do the engine, firefox is basically a front end with plugins (check browser engine for IE and u'll be amazed to find mozilla 5.1 in most cases ;) ).

now u're finding a browser "amazing" thats come from the linux world, so i guess this shows y MS are worrying so much about linux. imho linux would trash MS if it were easier on the user (which mandrake are tryin very hard to do). and now MS have found out that apple have started closin the doors legally so no more copying their GUI etc.

not to hijack the thread, i've worked in dedicated server enviroments and i found that linux out runs MS's coding, especially in security.

right here are 2 cases....

case 1:

2 game servers, EXACT specs.... ms win 2k running on one box, that held 4 games before feeling the load. other box with redhat 9 on it has 19 games and is hovering between 60 to 80% usage.

case 2:

for web serving u got IIS (MS's web server) and Apache (not the chopper :p the web server). now.... IIS runs as a process (main thread) just like Apache... but... when a user sends a request to the "site". IIS incorporates that request into the system, apache (if running on linux) will open a child process for that user ;) . welcome to security :p

simple reason y i use a windows box? coz of compatibility.

otherwise? MAC all the way for general use, and servers dont u dare show me anythin other then linux, bsd or nix.

proof? current xbox (yes an MS product) is running a Linux 2.4.1 kernel on it (if am not mistaken its that version) and MS are using MAC's to develop the new Xbox 360 !

MS is really a proof that marketing does work! if u got good marketing, u'll even sell rubbish as luxury

[jjsaul]

i installed mandrake on my laptop to try and get used to it, and apart from the learning curve and initial lack of compaitibility its excellent.

it looks good, does what you tell it and is very very stable.

[olo]

yea, and to be honest its the windows of linux, just to give u a hint on wot linux can do.

i agree, if u want to learn linux, get mandrake, if u want decent software, get fedora but expect a steep learning curve then.

[mike tilley]

Thanks for the replies chaps.

I've had a bit of a play with mozilla email software now and I'm not entirely sure it's gonna be what I want. What I found with Firefox was that when I moved from IE the transition was easy and I quickly got comfortable with using it...I'm not sur that'll be the case with the email clients?

I'd love to have a play with Linux but I need to be convinced that there is software out there that runs on it to do what I do. Video editing, drawing/designing, CAD, Photo editing, DVD creation, etc, etc.....So can any one tell me if I can do all of the above on a Linux platform???

[olo]

:o a really nice industry u work in! was always amazed by the stuff u guys do!

to be honest.... how come u dont consider a MAC? i've seen their performace and its by far better in such stuff

[Carl]

Tab browsing, how did we ever surf the net without it?
I moved over to Firefox last year and have never looked back. I even have it installed on the machine at work. I also installed Thunderbird and have had no problems with it.

Carl

[mike tilley]

:o a really nice industry u work in! was always amazed by the stuff u guys do!

to be honest.... how come u dont consider a MAC? i've seen their performace and its by far better in such stuff
Well, I don't actually work in that industry...it's more of a sideline/hobby. I am in fact a Special Effects Technician which is mostly practical, hands on work on location or in studio. :)

[Newsreader]

If I went over to Thunderbird, what exactly would I find better?
Well, since 99% of this thread is a foreign language to me, I think I'll stick with Outlook thanks :D

[mike tilley]

Well I've just had a play with Thuderbird (was trying Mozilla Suite before) and all I can say is bloody brilliant!!!!!! It's seems to work alot like outlook express but without the 'Micro$oft' component......bye bye outlook express hehe :D

[mike tilley]

.......and what's more it imported all my OE folders and settings seamlessly!

[Madoobri]

.......and what's more it imported all my OE folders and settings seamlessly!
I`m interested sounds good, but if you want to go back to OE does it do that seamlessly :rolleyes:

[mike tilley]

I`m interested sounds good, but if you want to go back to OE does it do that seamlessly :rolleyes: LOL :D there's always someone who asks an awkward question :rolleyes:

[EasyMan]

The quick answer is probably no, because the import functions of Outlook Express aren't very good, but with some additional tools you could probably do it...

But why would you want to?

[Madoobri]

But why would you want to?
Well in case it all goes t*ts up & I want to go back to OE!

[EasyMan]

My experience says that the import functions of Thunderbird are very good, and the functionality and easy of use would never make me want to return to OE.

But I appreciate what you're saying. If you want to go back immediatley, before you have any new mail arrive, then you OE installation will not have been touched, so it should just be a matter of firing it back up. Or you could just forward youself the new emails and pick them up using OE.

John

[Madoobri]

ok thanks for that easyman, maybe give it a try!