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Cocky Lil Guy

7th Jun 2005, 16:09

I want to do this as an expedition, my brother is out there for 3 years on business, and i would love to do this and go see him. I would also like to be able to do some off roading in the Malaysian jungle.

The only trouble is i don't know how to plan a route, the atlases i have are rubbish and don't have many roads on, so something online would be good if someone could direct me in the right direction.

Oh and i will be looking to do it in a Landy, wither 90 or most probably 110!!

Rich_P

7th Jun 2005, 16:38

Take your time in the planning though. Decide which comes first, uni and such, or the expadition.

I myself am wanting to do an expedition sometime too in a Land Rover, in the next 10 years I hope too! And obviously, Otu will not be up to the job. :p

How many LPG/Petrol stations are there usually, and is the fuel good enough for a standard 110 V8? lol

TheGurkha

7th Jun 2005, 16:47

Gadzooks, Cocky, aim high why doncha! If it all comes together it will be awesome.

Cocky Lil Guy

7th Jun 2005, 17:05

Yeah that what i'm hoping for, one awesome holiday in a lovely Landy...but of course i'm not too sure if i will be able to do it. He is only out there for 3 years so by the time i finish my apperenticeship he will be coming back, but hopefully by then they might off him a good contract where he can stay over there for a while longer...he works for MAN the truck people and he is the Malaysian MD's right hand man!! So you never know i might be able to go!!

Newsreader

7th Jun 2005, 17:44

Go for it Dom :) Via Michelin (http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichelin/gbr/tpl/hme/MaHomePage.htm) will get you across Europe for starters at least :)

Cocky Lil Guy

7th Jun 2005, 18:14

Thanks Bernie.
Want to get a route planned first of all of course...then get a landy and find out all the stuff to get there and that.

Just been told by my dad, who used to work for an international company that it used to take the lorry drives at his work 3 weeks to get to Iran...so i'm looking for about 2 months!! and he also says the biggest problem will be going through Burma!

Madoobri

7th Jun 2005, 18:16

Snagger

7th Jun 2005, 18:55

Aye Burmangham will be dodgy watch yersel!!!

:D:D:D:D

You definately need to keep an eye out for bandits as you cross the Bull Ring!;)

jjsaul

7th Jun 2005, 22:39

bloody ell, dont take a V8.....you'll run out of fuel and you'll probably cook it :D

sounds like a really cool idea tho, hope it works ;)

bigdog

8th Jun 2005, 01:45

If i'm not mistaken there was an article in LR Enthusisast or LRO where they travelled from Europe to Asia passing Kuala Lumpur. (defenders).

Do it in time for the Malaysian RFC. Dont forget the pics!

Cocky Lil Guy

8th Jun 2005, 17:14

hehe, i saw in one of the mags that someone was in Iran and they said everyone was friendly!! i'm in the process of planning it, just working out what i want for it hehe. Thinking of getting a roof tent and camping out instead of spending money on hotels and that! oh and scorpion 2" lift, with tubular winch bumper with some form of driving lamps for the desert and mountain roads at night! all in good time!!

Cocky Lil Guy

8th Jun 2005, 18:14

Dew1911 and Jjsaul have now been recurited!! They want to trek to Malaysia with me in 3 landys, one me and James are looking for either a 300/200tdi hardtop 110, and Dew wants a 109 hard top, hes gonna put a toyota engine in.

Dew1911

8th Jun 2005, 18:16

The toyota engine isn't final, but a 109 with a 4.0 will be nice.

Rich_P

8th Jun 2005, 18:30

If it is possible, increase that number by 1... which is me. No clue on where the place is, but I do wanna do such a thing. :D

Dew1911

8th Jun 2005, 18:40

In what car though?

Rich_P

8th Jun 2005, 18:43

You mean truck right? :p

Probably a Defender, 200/300TDi. Depends what is best overall. Because you need to be able to fix things fairly well with what you have if you break down in the middle of a looooong track.

Dew1911

8th Jun 2005, 18:45

Whatever, We can't have you turning up in a heap

Rich_P

8th Jun 2005, 18:50

Whatever, We can't have you turning up in a heap

Of course! Defender would probably be the best option that I can think of... and that would be a 200/300TDi, anything newer than that would probably be a little too electronically sofisticated.

Dew1911

8th Jun 2005, 19:34

lol or like me with an S3 109, Perfect for the job.

jjsaul

8th Jun 2005, 21:47

other thing i thought of....

200/300 tdi rangie .....seen em about wondered if tis a possibility with a bit of lift and some decent rubber...??

Rich_P

8th Jun 2005, 21:56

other thing i thought of....

200/300 tdi rangie .....seen em about wondered if tis a possibility with a bit of lift and some decent rubber...??

Check last month's LROi Mag, there's a section on a Rangie race/expedition with roof rack, tents, GPS e.t.c. kitted out on them. Very nice stuff.

Dew1911

9th Jun 2005, 06:07

I think the shape of the Rangie wouldn't help, not as much storage space ect...

billh

9th Jun 2005, 10:13

Just been told by my dad, who used to work for an international company that it used to take the lorry drives at his work 3 weeks to get to Iran...so i'm looking for about 2 months!! and he also says the biggest problem will be going through Burma!

I think he's right on both counts. I went to Nepal a few years ago (8 to be exact). It took us 3 weeks to get to Iran, but we did dawdle a bit in Turkey. Iran was fantastic, the people were lovely and the lack of tourists (especially americans;) ) was ace. We took 3 months to get to Nepal but we weren't hurrying.

From there we looked at going to Singapore but Burma was a bit of a non starter. Even getting to the Indian side of the border was going to be unlikely, and I don't thnk things have changed much. We then researched going north out of Nepal into Tibet and China before dropping down into Laos. It should be possible but the Chinese have issues with foreigners, especially ones with their own transport. IIRC they wanted to send a "guide" in their own jeep (plus driver) which we would have had to pay for. We gave up at that point.

Good luck anyway, it's a hell of an experience - one I still grin about regularly:)

graham

9th Jun 2005, 10:43

The only trouble is i don't know how to plan a route, the atlases i have are rubbish and don't have many roads on, so something online would be good if someone could direct me in the right direction.

M6 and turn left :D :D :D or you could try multmap.com

Cocky Lil Guy

9th Jun 2005, 11:45

Thanks billh, i am going to have to research Burma, i hope that i will be able to go through, if i can't i will have to look at going through China! But then again still a bit dodgy.

Graham, thanks, i know most of the M6 (up untill junction 8 - M5 hehe) as i used to do that regularly.

Oh and Steel, as long as the others don't mind then yeah should be fine!! Oh No more recruites!!

And if needs be i can probably steel a T4 from the workshop at work to take along with us!! if you need one for a TD4 or newer!! I also suggest diesel as i can't be bothered messing around with an overheated V8!! Sorry

Storm

9th Jun 2005, 11:56

If you need any support in my region I'll be happy to help out (might even get LR pakistan to sponsor you while your vehicles while you are here). Also you are more than welcome to stay at one of my houses (depending on which region of pakistan you cross).

While you are in my area food & drink (including alcohol) is on me. Email me when you decide when to come and i'll make the arrangements (as well as forwarding you my contact numbers).

This offer is open to any member of this forum at any time (as long as i'm in the country - which is usually all the time:D )

Hope this helps you plan your route a bit better.

Storm

9th Jun 2005, 11:59

I've got friends in iran, turkey & the middle east so if I can get them to get off their backsides i'm sure they'll help you out in their regions as well.

BTW - anyone who is planning such a trip should take out at least a few days so I can arrange excursions & parties.

Cocky Lil Guy

9th Jun 2005, 12:04

Thanks mate. (This is what forums are about hehe). Lads we're going through Pakistan now hehe. I will keep you notified of everything and will plan about a week or so in your area, for off roading and stuff if thats alright!!??

I'll add you to msn. Thanks once again!!

Storm

9th Jun 2005, 12:28

Anytime, I look forward to seeing you guys here.

Cocky Lil Guy

9th Jun 2005, 12:30

I look forward to coming!!

Cocky Lil Guy

9th Jun 2005, 13:26

Have made a list of a countries i think i will need to go through, not quite certian yet; going to try to contact some embassy's to find out if we will need permits.

Starting in the UK (Picking people up either on the way, or make a meeting point),
Belgium,
Germany,
Austria,
Italy,
Slovenia,
Bosnia and Herzegrovina,
Seriba and Monterengro,
Bulgaria,
Turkey,
Iran,
Pakistan, week break with Storm,
India,
Bangladesh,
China,
Laos,
Thailand, then finally,
Malaysia.

I have thought of trying to get some people to sponser us, and maybe having more people if i can get enough sponser's. I was thinking i could get sponsership from Land Rover themselves, and i should be able to go through the inside as i'll be an apprenticeship.

You might have noticed i have detoured Burma as my dad said its a closed country, so i've got no chance of getting through!

Dew1911

9th Jun 2005, 15:07

Looks cool, and get into Malasiya in time for the GP :P

Cocky Lil Guy

9th Jun 2005, 15:09

I'll work towards it!!

JamesD

9th Jun 2005, 15:38

you buy yourself a nice s3... kit out rotes n hasslich and then give her to me!

Dew1911

9th Jun 2005, 16:09

Nah, My dad will have her (or It could be my Disco 3 by then)

Rich_P

9th Jun 2005, 17:11

By interest, do you know how many road miles it is on that route, Dom?

Dew1911

9th Jun 2005, 17:13

More than a couple

Cocky Lil Guy

9th Jun 2005, 17:30

Not sure exactly i have just got the route from an atlas, i will have to work it out. You still intrested Steel, won't be doing it untill your about 20!!

JamesD

9th Jun 2005, 19:31

gives me enough time to save up for the bits n bobs needed... think im gonna have to replace morags engine tho with a lower mileage one :(

either that or rebuild it totally... hmm..

JamesD

9th Jun 2005, 20:18

had a look on the FCO website and:

UK to Austria: Fine
Slovenia: mostly trouble free
Serbia: mostly trouble free, take care in south
Macedonia: mostly trouble free
Turkey: take care in areas
Iran: Advise against all but essential travel
Pakistan: Advise against all travel
India: Advise against all travel to Kashmir and North East
Bangladesh: Advise aganst all but essential travel
Burma: Landmines... Hate brits... Nuff sed...
Laos: Mostly trouble free
Thailand: Advise against all but essential travel
Malaysia: Mostly trouble free

JamesD

9th Jun 2005, 20:21

China: Fine as long as we have visas

I must admit it's the middle eastern areas that would freak me the most... Can imagine it'd be dangerous for white Britons in some of them.

Pete H

9th Jun 2005, 20:36

You can fly direct from Manchester to KL,theres a flight every sunday mornin',a lot less hassle and way way way cheaper :D

Cost....About 900 quid return,operators,Malaysia airlines ;)

Storm

10th Jun 2005, 04:06

had a look on the FCO website and:

Iran: Advise against all but essential travel
Pakistan: Advise against all travel
India: Advise against all travel to Kashmir and North East

...that's where I come in.

BTW - if you head through the north of pakistan (Peshawar to Islamabad) & iran, you'll be able to cross into india from the famous Lahore border (and get to watch the opening & closing of the borders (it's a sight worth watching, they antagonise each other like hell - but it's all choreographed, nothing serious).

I'll speak to a couple of friends in Iran and India to see if they can provide you with a bit of support while you are there.

Regardless of what you do, you'll need a break by the time you get here, good to see you are taking a week off. Just make sure you stay in contact in case you need any parts (i'm sure Land Rover Pakistan can arrange that kind of stuff quickly for me - the head guys are all ex-army and love expeditions).

Storm

10th Jun 2005, 04:07

You can fly direct from Manchester to KL,theres a flight every sunday mornin',a lot less hassle and way way way cheaper :D

Cost....About 900 quid return,operators,Malaysia airlines ;)

LOL, pete mate you're losing the plot again....:D

Dew1911

10th Jun 2005, 06:37

I personally am looking forward to this, could be a good ride.

Rich_P

10th Jun 2005, 08:10

I might be eventually getting hold of a Series II 109-inch Station Wagon, which would be ideal for this sort of expedition as long as a better lump is put in to replace the old 2.25 litre diesel.

Dew1911

10th Jun 2005, 08:12

Yeah I'm planning a S3 109, It's only JamesD who will have the little 90.

Cocky Lil Guy

10th Jun 2005, 10:02

billh

10th Jun 2005, 10:38

I must admit it's the middle eastern areas that would freak me the most... Can imagine it'd be dangerous for white Britons in some of them.

I wouldn't be too concerned, when we went (admittedly before the recent Bush/Blair adventure) the Iranians and Pakistanis were the most hospitable people we met. We found the Iranians had very little time for their government's posturing, and while large parts of Pakistan are pretty lawless we encountered nothing but hospitality.

JamesD

10th Jun 2005, 13:57

yes i have experienced nothing but hospitality from the people of the middle east but i also went before blair and bush's field day there and im not so sure about our welcomeness in some areas...

it'll definitely be a once in a lifetime experience...

luckily i dont stay white for long and after a few weeks in the sun i go darker than my best mate, who is an arab from syria whoc migrated here about 5 years ago... the same one that says that i look like an afghan... cheers mam ;)

morag will be fine for the job with some careful packing both on the roofrack and inside. might even have to put one of the spares on the side ala army vehicles - not sure yet.

was thinking about what we will need and i quite like the idea of a dual diesel tank which would mean that it's approx 800miles between fillups. of course this will be useful in the areas with no stations (fuel is dirt cheap in turkey and iran so that'll be an ideal place to fill both tanks!)

only problem with dual tanks is where to fit the second tank on a 90. could put it under the passenger seat but that means relocating the batteries (2 of them) which is a bit of a faff. They could go under the bonnet but im not keen on that.

as for the language barriers. is it worth learning any languages before we go?

Dew1911

10th Jun 2005, 15:06

nah, we'll just use internation sign language.

JamesD

10th Jun 2005, 16:03

i may have a problem getting into some countries due to ties with the military so im gonna have to ring the iranian embassy for a start! :(

Rich_P

10th Jun 2005, 16:17

I do suggest though, that we do all go in similair vehicles. For instance, stick to the 300TDi for example, for repairability issues that may arise. As the military also like to use the same engines and stuff.

Means that we won't have to bring along the same number of random spares for differant engines!
It will also likely take about 5 years of planning anyway for the thing to be "sorted"... :rolleyes:

JamesD

10th Jun 2005, 16:20

200tdi is more common in the places we are going so it's gonan be better to have one of them each. i'm gonan be replacing morags with a 200 methinks.

Dew1911

10th Jun 2005, 16:30

I was thinking maybe the Diesel out of the Nissan Patrol

Rich_P

10th Jun 2005, 16:30

200tdi is more common in the places we are going so it's gonan be better to have one of them each. i'm gonan be replacing morags with a 200 methinks.

Are you sure? 200TDis weren't made very long compared to the 300.

JamesD

10th Jun 2005, 16:37

nissan patrols are a good choice too. lots of them!

yup matey, we offloaded a load of 200tdi's to teh middle and far east.

Dew1911

10th Jun 2005, 16:44

Well the UN use Patrols, so I presume there Engines must be of some good.

Cocky Lil Guy

11th Jun 2005, 21:36

Hopefully we won't have any repairablity diffulcitys as i will have my apprenticeship under my belt and i am going to see if i can get offical LR sponsership, so they should be able to get us some spares and what not.

If anyone has anything that they might think will stop them being able to get into a country, PM or e-mail me with it and as i am going to get onto all the embassys i will check if it will be ok, unless you would find it easier to do it yourself.

jjsaul

11th Jun 2005, 21:48

i dont speak any middle eastern languages....is that a problem??? :D

Rich_P

11th Jun 2005, 22:16

I can speak english... english.... english... and a tiny little bit of french. :rolleyes:

OH, btw, if Dom wants a 200/300TDi, James Saul wants one of them, and I wouldn't mind one, would it be better to get a 200TDi Defender?

AJC

11th Jun 2005, 22:35

Checkout these links (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rabbit/MENO/bookmark/Database/OverlandSection.htm) of completed expeditions. There's some great information from expeditions all over the world.

AJ

jjsaul

11th Jun 2005, 22:37

nice one AJ, cheers :)

JamesD

12th Jun 2005, 13:15

i dont speak any middle eastern languages....is that a problem??? :D
i speak a tiny bit of arabic but i need a book to remind me... as for difficulties getting into certain countries... i've spoken to you about that!

JamesD

12th Jun 2005, 13:27

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/m.colmer/c2k/main.htm - interesting journey and a route going through less countries

JamesD

12th Jun 2005, 13:41

had a quick look at what i'll need (minus spare parts) and wrote it all down:

Bullbar
Fridge
Tinted Mirror Glass
Window Bars
Hi-Lift
2x Diff Guards
Roll cage
Roofrack
Snorkel & wading kit
2 new batteries
2 fire extinguishers
waffle boards
2 spar tyres
tyre repair kit
aux fuel tank
2" lift
2 driving lamps
polybush kit
GPS

things i need to make:
rear shelving to store tools
shower (water canister on roof with shower head on)

Dew1911

12th Jun 2005, 14:08

Thanks James, Nice List. I'll add it to my to do list.

jjsaul

12th Jun 2005, 16:17

should i be thinking about things like that then :D ....

am currently thinking where to get the money for the above :p

Cocky Lil Guy

12th Jun 2005, 16:29

Lol, i have started making a list, haven't finished yet, but will post some time soon. I am also making a website about it as well, and as i will take my lappy with us, i will have a diary on there for people back home!!

JamesD

12th Jun 2005, 21:35

i'll be taking a lappy merely to download pictures onto and check emails/bank account

jjsaul

12th Jun 2005, 21:57

dont worry bout techonology, 5 years is a long way in computer terms :D

Cocky Lil Guy

12th Jun 2005, 22:58

true, i won't be worried, and will probably be buying that sort of stuff few weeks/months before hand.

But stuff like Waffle boards might as well get now because you can alsways use them off road!

jjsaul

12th Jun 2005, 23:02

But stuff like Waffle boards might as well get now because you can alsways use them off road!

hehe i ordered some last week, coming on tuesday apparently!!

Dew1911

13th Jun 2005, 05:58

Waffle Boards? Me gone stupid again...

Storm

13th Jun 2005, 09:10

Whoa, seems like alot has happened over the weekend. Good to see so much enthusiasm. I just wanted to point out that in this region (iran, pakistan, afghanistan, india, china, malasia etc) the 200TDi only came for a short stint while the 300TDi is stil in production and spares are readily available.

Also like that link stated local mechanics can "fix" anything (sometimes better than new) but Landrover PK will obviously do a better job. I can always get the "official" mechanics to come to my house so you can get the work done while you chill in the pool with a cold beer (remember alcohol is forbidden here:eek: ).

It's good to see you guys are taking your time planning this trip out and not rushing into it. Hopefully i'll still have my landy by then (already looking into getting a Range Rover Sport) but regardless, the offer is always open to anyone on this site at any time (at least while i'm alive:D ). Still it'll give my son some time to grow up and maybe i'll join you guys from border to border.

Let me know if you guys need anything from my side.

Storm

13th Jun 2005, 09:12

I was thinking maybe the Diesel out of the Nissan Patrol Nissan Patrols are dead in the water over here, the Land cruiser is the preffered Diesel Jeep of the UN. The patrol is only used in the middle east, but the sheikhs of UAE all have (armoured) G-Wagens and Defender 110's.

Storm

13th Jun 2005, 09:18

I'm having probably a 300tdi 110, Dew, i'm also looking very forward to this, but we'll have to wait a bit.

Storm, thanks for the help and that, i will plan to go through the north, might even fly a union jack while i'm there. I expect that it will be about 5 or so years away so young Steel can gain some experiance.

Must dash got an English Exam soon...will be back later!! Ciao!!

No problem with the Union Jack, worst thing which would happen is that people would take pictures (just make sure they don't mistake your Landys for military vehicles (they might think we're getting invaded:D ). Just in case I'll arrange a couple of Pakistani Flags as well.

BTW - If you guys want me to arrange some sort of "expedition" decals do tell me. I can get them done here at a fraction of the cost. I was thinking about an outline (Europe & asia) map or something and then a list of all the countries you'll be visiting. Maybe a couple of dot's to mark your route as you go along. Or perhaps something like the Paris-Dakkar ones. Let me know.

Cocky Lil Guy

13th Jun 2005, 09:20

I thought that 300TDi's were the best thing to go for, i don't think i'll have too much problems fixing anything as by then i'll be a trained LR mechanic, i'll just need to be able to get the parts.

Thanks to James S i am now thinking of a Range Rover Classic with 300tdi and manual g'box probably 5 speed. But i might still go for a 110 Hardtop 300tdi.

Storm

13th Jun 2005, 09:21

(sorry for the multiple posts) you guys should also think about perhaps buying a Landy from here. I could have a word with the people at Land Rover and see if they can arrange a couple of 300TDi's tax free so you could eventually take them back to the UK - just a thought, not too sure about type approval/MOT/etc.. though. Will look into it if anyone is interested.

jjsaul

13th Jun 2005, 09:38

sounds good storm!

Dew1911

13th Jun 2005, 11:24

Wouldn't they be LHD? I do not want to drive a Left Hooker.

Cocky Lil Guy

13th Jun 2005, 11:26

In all fairness a LHD would be better on the continant, as thats the same side as them, and you would blend in better. But we're British we don't want to blend in, hehe!!

Storm

13th Jun 2005, 11:33

Wouldn't they be LHD? I do not want to drive a Left Hooker.

The indian subcontinent was once (some people say still) under british rule,... therefore we're all driving RHD!:)

Dew1911

13th Jun 2005, 11:34

If I'm bringing the truck back to britian afterwards then it's got to be a RHD.

Cocky Lil Guy

13th Jun 2005, 11:36

Hehe. Do you know why the British drive RHD cars?? And it's not just because we're trying to be different!!

Yeah if i am going to drive in the UK i'd rather have a RHD!

Dew1911

13th Jun 2005, 11:53

Well we're in line with Japan and Australia, so it's for easier imports I presume.

jjsaul

13th Jun 2005, 12:03

when we started looking at buying a 'weekend' car we looked at old yanks, so LHD / RHD aint an issue :p hehe

but RHD is good ya! :D

Dew1911

13th Jun 2005, 12:14

Ever Driven a Fiat Barchetta (LHD Only - sold over here) right pain in the overtaking!

Cocky Lil Guy

13th Jun 2005, 12:16

James, i thought that you were revising?? or are you taking a break...as in 20 mins revising, 2 hours on the internet hehe.

jjsaul

13th Jun 2005, 13:23

erm....am doing revising in between, just had lunch :p

also i can revise between LRUK but not msn.

Dew1911

13th Jun 2005, 14:50

lol Anything new peeps, Just finished a board meeting *snooze*

Storm

14th Jun 2005, 09:39

Worst thing about driving a LHD in the UK,.... McDonalds Drive throught!!!

jjsaul

14th Jun 2005, 10:20

Worst thing about driving a LHD in the UK,.... McDonalds Drive throught!!!

Worst thing about a mcdonalds drive through.....the food :D

Cocky Lil Guy

14th Jun 2005, 16:10

I love a good beef burger, g/f's dad does BBQ burgers, actual 100% beef lovely... *drools*

Dew1911

14th Jun 2005, 16:20

Little off topic there dom..

Cocky Lil Guy

14th Jun 2005, 17:14

A little i spose, hehe. Right back to the topic...

Dew1911

15th Jun 2005, 17:12

Back to topic the site is up, but a bit bare.

Cocky Lil Guy

15th Jun 2005, 21:26

Yeah, thats just some links that we have come across. Rich is working on the actual site.

Dew1911

16th Jun 2005, 06:02

If he needs any help I'm quite good at this kind of thing.

Storm

16th Jun 2005, 07:44

.. ..did someone mention burgers?:rolleyes: :rolleyes::Cow::rolleyes: :rolleyes:

JamesD

16th Jun 2005, 12:35

im a website designer by trade so if you need any help then give me a shout!! i'm sure i'll have a dabble at making one anyway just for the fun! ;)

Dew1911

16th Jun 2005, 14:56

Same here, Once I find where my sister moved notepad.

jjsaul

16th Jun 2005, 15:15

Same here, Once I find where my sister moved notepad.
ROFLMAO

JamesD

16th Jun 2005, 16:15

Storm... you couldn't do us a favour and see if the old ferry between pakistan and the UAE or Saudi still runs with cars on it for us pleas. We're just looking at different routes to get to you... The route through Iran looks like it may be threatened by Mr Bush... :(

Storm

17th Jun 2005, 09:00

Storm

17th Jun 2005, 09:01

Same here, Once I find where my sister moved notepad.

LOL! Reminds me of that scene from Zoolander when Owen Wilson's charecter says "the files are IN THE COMPUTER"

JamesD

17th Jun 2005, 10:45

There are ships running back and forth between Dubai and Karachi (port bin qasim) all the time. You just have to get on a ship and get over here. I think it's a good idea to skip bush's playground but a word of advice, when driving from karachi to Islamabad try making the trip during light and stop for no one. "That there be bandit country at night".
yeah im not too keen on going through iran... specially seeing as bush now has them sandwiched by afghanistan and iraq! hopefully we will have diplomatic immunity in Syria so we should be ok there.

do you know who operates the shipping? cant find anything on the net.

as for karachi - islammabad how long will it take us and is it safe to sleep outside? looking at the map we could do the distance in 2 days but it depends upon the roads i suppose.

JamesD

17th Jun 2005, 10:49

http://portal.pohub.com/portal/page?_pageid=149,1,149_78339&_dad=pogprtl&_schema=POGPRTL - thats port Bin Qasim's website

JamesD

17th Jun 2005, 11:16

ok.. managed to find this which is interesting!! have emailed P&O to see about travelling on the ships ourselves. it's only a 2 day voyage so we shud be alright!! i hope!! otherwise we'll have top fly to karachi and wait there.

jebel ali - karachi = dubai - port muhammed bin qasir

Dew1911

17th Jun 2005, 15:43

And this means?

JamesD

17th Jun 2005, 21:11

And this means?
i hope you are joking cos i aint goin all teh way round the world with someone that cant read a shipping timetable..... ;)

Dew1911

18th Jun 2005, 08:07

I ain't even D/L'd it.

JamesD

18th Jun 2005, 16:50

I ain't even D/L'd it.
good excuse. ;)

Dew1911

18th Jun 2005, 18:32

And I'm sticking to it.

Manamendra

4th May 2006, 09:13

Did anything come of this or did the discussions/planning move elsewhere? I'm interested to know how things turned out.

Simon

Rich_P

4th May 2006, 09:29

Main issue, Dom and JJ may have vehicles up to it (or will be able to afford one), but I am not in such a position for quite a while. Plus other things, so I don't know if anything has come to it. Dew was puting in a lot of input into it, until it turned out he was some little kid who's several months younger than myself.... :(

So yeah, not much happend on the topic since.

dave07018

4th May 2006, 14:02

Sounds like a good trip.

JamesD

4th May 2006, 18:41

Dew was puting in a lot of input into it, until it turned out he was some little kid who's several months younger than myself....
now now... theres no need to be *****y about things! in many ways dew was actually a lot more mature than many other people, just let himself down sometimes.

toppa

4th May 2006, 18:47

So is Dew still going????

Are any of you??

CHeers

JamesD

4th May 2006, 18:52

it's still an option! all depends... im moving to australia so could do it the other way round and save me an airfare... even if it'll be more expensive ;)

Manamendra

5th May 2006, 03:02

There certainly was a spot of immaturity in those last postings. Shame, it had the makings of a great a great trip.

Simon

toiletduck

5th May 2006, 06:57

It sounds like an amazing dream, but it really is 120 posts too long...

Gripper

5th May 2006, 13:57

http://www.man-mn.de/datapool/imagepool/c0042/Offroad.jpg

Take one of these. You should get good service at the other end!

Gripper

5th May 2006, 13:59

Hmmm, I'll try again.

http://www.man-mn.de/datapool/imagepool/c0042/Offroad.jpg

Gripper

5th May 2006, 14:00

Bu@@er. How do I attach a picture?

Lighting90

5th May 2006, 14:38

When you hit the reply buttona nd get your reply box, if you scroll down, you see a second box just below, titled Additional Options, in that box you will find a button marked Manage Attachments, click on that and it gives a pop up, which then lets you up load pictures from your computer.

The forum software does not allow you to post pictures direct from other websites, as somethimes you can accidently end up with a loop, picture posted from another forum which is then post back ont he original forum and then back again... what happens is both sites then end up running far to slow... :)

Rich_P

5th May 2006, 15:55

Yeah, I want to do the Dakar, if I had the chance to! Gimme one of those big trucks please. :thumbsup:

jjsaul

5th May 2006, 23:05

JamesD

5th May 2006, 23:45

Yer i'm still up for doing the trip when i finish Uni. I think it would be one of those things that would stand right up there in 'things ive done' :)

I just need to get saving...either that or blow my entire student loan on going :D
believe you me... the government dont give near enough money in the loan to live off... let alone do an overland exped!!