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Trevellyan
5th Mar 2003, 20:17
Any ideas ?

I've got a 60,000 miles Freelander XEDI, S reg. At anywhere between 1,500 to 2,000 RPM and under load I get a horrible vibration throughout the car. My local dealer has changed the prop shaft support bearings (either side of the couple) but it made no difference. I also think I get the vibration when I'm slowing down. It feels very much part of the drive chain but I'm no expert. No vibration occurs when standing still and revving the engine. This is starting to effect my sanity, cos all I do now is drive like kangaroo trying to isolate the vibration and any odd noise.

Please help.

Cheers

Dorian:

Lighting90
1st May 2003, 17:35
You may have given up waiting for answer, but anyway, I have heard that the vibration you are talking about is caused by uneven wear on the rear tyres. this is caused by the rear diff sticking, and thus when you turn any corners you scrub your tyres.

Trevellyan
1st May 2003, 20:18
Thanks for all your advise chaps.

I got in contact with ashcroft-transmissions in Luton who advised me that the viscous coupling can sieze and if not picked up quickly enough then your IRD and rear diff can suffer damage.
So with that in mind it took it along to them and they confirmed that the couple was tight but not to worry about it for now. More importantly they found that my rear diff bushes were ******ed, and hence the vibration and bumping when I accelerate.
Guess what I'm doing this weekend.

Also I've been aware of the tyre wear for a long time. All to do with the 60/40 split through the IRD. I've been swapping the tyres round every 10k to get over the orrible 'bearing failure' noise created when the rear tyres scallop (caused by the rear wheels dragging).

So to summarise: Excellent motor, shame LR had designed such a terrible drive train and refused to do anything about it when you complained.

Also top marks to the Dave at Ashcroft Transmissions, very helpfull team and also they seem to be fairly cheap.

Cheers
Dorian

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Dorasamy
15th May 2003, 17:54
Also maybe worth mentioning wheel balancing........ I had this on mine, had it balanced 4 times and still didn't solve the problem. The weights need to be stuck in the middle of the wheel not on the edge. Such a simple thing...... but the garage didn't pick up on it nor did 3 other tyre places. In the end took it to sports car tyre place they sorted it for £20

s.stirley
16th May 2003, 07:17
Which sort of wheels is that with ? assume some sort of alloy. You mean effectively inline with the centre of the tyre, rather than near the edges where they are usually 'clipped' on.

I would guess the problem is that weights near the edge get thrown off easily and hence it's not balanced anymore, but weights on the centre line tend to stay put. Working out the balance like this requires a machine which is capable of being put into that mode (most are not, hence your trip to the sports car specialist I think) and it may not always actually be possible to get a perfect balance this way.

Maybe there are some better clip-on weights also. Note to self - make a note of all the wheel weights and locations when you've got it running smooth :)

Must admit it's always a suspicion when you get wheel wobble, and on 'normal' cars I would swap the front and rear axle sets of tyres over to see if it changes. This probably works on a baby hippo, but to a lesser degree.

Cheers !

Dorasamy
16th May 2003, 18:43
I know ****** all about cars but since this happened I've became something of a expert in wheel balancing. Had Landrover accistance out, the bloke explained what the problem was....... basically if it only happens at certain speeds and you can drive through it (with mine it was from 60-75 mph above and below that speed it was fine) then it's ya wheel balancing.

Had them put in the inside of a normal 16" alloy wheel, basically goes on the blind side near the spoke on the flat bit and they stick on the wheel.

If the weight is on the rim, it's balaned when on the machine vertically but not horizontally obviously when its in the center its ballanced both ways

When I say sports car specialist really they just sold tyres for Landrovers, porches, and other wide large tyred cars as well as your average tyre....... Most should have the machine capable of doing this just make sure the person doing it knows what their doing and not a spotty 16 year old at ATS. (went to ATS twice!!! ****ers!!))