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beemer
11th Apr 2006, 06:19
For the 95 D1 today I got a 2 1/16" 6 point deep socket.

Questions before I get into the wheel bearing and get stuck.

1. The socket is broached 2" deep, is this deep enough to reach the jam nut without bottoming out on the axle stub?

2. With a 2.955" OD on the socket will this fit inside the hub and reach jam nut?

I want to be ready with no surprises that stop the job.

kevinrbeech
11th Apr 2006, 21:23
For the 95 D1 today I got a 2 1/16" 6 point deep socket.

Questions before I get into the wheel bearing and get stuck.

1. The socket is broached 2" deep, is this deep enough to reach the jam nut without bottoming out on the axle stub?

2. With a 2.955" OD on the socket will this fit inside the hub and reach jam nut?

I want to be ready with no surprises that stop the job.

This is all getting a bit technical:

All I use is a $10 box spanner, prise away the locking washer, undo the first nut, remove locking washer, undo second nut.

beemer
11th Apr 2006, 23:41
Thanks for the reply but my two questions still go unanswered.
Aviation and Rover maintenance seem to be at opposite ends of the spectrum but I can't resort to caveman tactics.

kevinrbeech
12th Apr 2006, 17:15
Thanks for the reply but my two questions still go unanswered.
Aviation and Rover maintenance seem to be at opposite ends of the spectrum but I can't resort to caveman tactics.

"Caveman" says hub nut size is 1 1/4" whitworth, or 52mm AF.
Sorry if you think my mechanical knowledge is that of a caveman.

Guess I won't be bothering you again.

NomadABC
12th Apr 2006, 17:49
"Caveman" says hub nut size is 1 1/4" whitworth, or 52mm AF.
Sorry if you think my mechanical knowledge is that of a caveman.

Guess I won't be bothering you again.

Join the club;)

waft
12th Apr 2006, 18:05
Thanks for the reply but my two questions still go unanswered.
Aviation and Rover maintenance seem to be at opposite ends of the spectrum but I can't resort to caveman tactics.

caveman tactics! what on earth's all that about???? uh-uh-uh

kev's answer seems pretty straightforward to me uh-uh-uh, what do you think,nomad?dont forget to speak in caveman language.

beemer
12th Apr 2006, 19:30
Grunt, Grunt! Sorry guys.
I found a photo last night where it looks like a thick wall socket will fit into the hub bore, the only question I have is the measurement from the locking washer to the end of the axle stub? The deep socket will reach 2 1/8", is that enough to clear the axle stub and engage the jam nut?
Next option is cut the socket and weld a 2" extension for a real deep socket. I have a lathe, Tig, Mig and Bridgeport mill at home so tools can be made as the ones made to rebuild the 380 5-speed.

beemer
12th Apr 2006, 21:02
I must add that over the past 35 years i've seen and worked on many floating axles where the wheel bearing jam nuts been rounded off by spanners when a socket should of been used to loosen not alone to reach proper torque. Pipe wrenches as well the best carnage with hammer a chisel. With 7 years working for NASA Ames working with the best with proper tools i'm use to working at a high standard. Even today as a aircraft mechanic.
To fellow Rover enthusiasts I may have offended I apologize.
At my work the standard phase "Caveman your fired" is something I use all the time, sorry this wasn't the proper time.

I still need that measurement from lock washer to axle stub before I machine the socket I have.

jepaton
12th Apr 2006, 21:13
... the only question I have is the measurement from the locking washer to the end of the axle stub? The deep socket will reach 2 1/8", is that enough to clear the axle stub and engage the jam nut?No, 2" isn't enough. Look at the images on:

http://www.landrovernet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34539

If you don't want to order the box spanner why not just weld one together? Make it out of 6 mm titanium if you want, but you'll probably find you don't need it that strong. Alternatively, butcher it off and replace it with a shiny one.

Jonathan Paton

Cocky Lil Guy
12th Apr 2006, 21:18
Well to be honest...i'm a rough A!rse, and i'll do it anyway possiable...i look after my tools, but i get the job done...and you need a 52mm socket...or box spanner!!

Stumpy Doofleer
12th Apr 2006, 22:12
Where do you buy a 52mm socket anyway?

beemer
12th Apr 2006, 22:24
The series Landy has more axle stick out than a Discoveries hence a lot deeper socket needed. I'll have to wait until the rain stops (37 out of 45 days now), pull the front apart, measure then make the socket deeper if needed. Rovers keep you out of pubs, can't afford bier after buying replacement parts.

jepaton
12th Apr 2006, 22:26
Whoops... must check what section I'm posting in! The following should help except for the depth of the socket needed. I guestimate it's either just at 2" or just beyond.

http://www.4x4wire.com/rover/maintenance/front_axle/wheel_bearings/

Jonathan Paton

beemer
12th Apr 2006, 23:05
Stumpy, I purchased a 6 point deep impact socket thru www.allenmachineco.com (http://www.allenmachineco.com) in Chattanooga Tennessee USA, paid $18.24 USD plus $10.46 USD shipping. I live in California. Ist I ordered a socket thru Paddocks, 12+ pounds socket with 4+ pounds shipping, a week later they want 35+ pounds shipping to the USA, that was foolish and cancelled Paddock's order. The socket will take a diameter of 1.840" up to 2.400" deep. For being made in Taiwan i'm surprised in the quality of finish even in the broach. By the way it's 1" drive. Part # WSOCK4480A.
Maybe on your side of the pond Paddocks will be cheaper.
Good luck with your tool hunting.