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AJC
9th Jul 2006, 19:40
Inner City Caches - I take it all back (Roy). There's a lot to be said for them after I experienced two of these blighters in the images below on the moors today. One legged it and the other stayed to battle!:eek: Needles to say, I didn't shove my hand down any more holes, Mrs AJ legged it to the nearest open space and this particular cache ended up as a DNF.:(

AJ

toppa
9th Jul 2006, 19:57
What the hell is that!!!!!!! You get snakes here???? Im never leaving london again!!


Cheers

AJC
9th Jul 2006, 20:05
To the best of my knowledge Toppa, we only have 2 snakes - Adders(Vipers) which are poisonous (in the images) and the Grass Snake (green in colour) which is harmless. There are Slow Worms too which look like snakes or maybe they are snakes. SUre someone will put me right.

AJ

Dave-H
9th Jul 2006, 20:27
Typical Navy boy - never gets into action on terra firma.
We have Three native snakes.
Grasssnake, Adder and Smooth snake
As said, Adder is poisonous [but rarely fatal, and then only to very young/old frail]
Grass and Smooth both non vemomous [but will bite if severely provoked]
And the images are Adder [well done AJ] :p

Dave-H
9th Jul 2006, 20:28
Forgot to add - Slowworm is a [legless] lizard, not a snake

AJC
9th Jul 2006, 20:41
Typical Navy boy - never gets into action on terra firma.Ahem, 3 of 8 medals for land ops/conflicts. ;)

We have Three native snakes.
Grasssnake, Adder and Smooth snake
As said, Adder is poisonous [but rarely fatal, and then only to very young/old frail]
Grass and Smooth both non vemomous [but will bite if severely provoked]
And the images are Adder [well done AJ] :pCheers for that Dave-B.

AJ

Dave-H
9th Jul 2006, 20:45
Ahem, 3 of 8 medals for land ops/conflicts. ;)
Cheers for that Dave-B.

AJ
What - you run aground three times! :eek:
:p

toppa
9th Jul 2006, 20:45
This thread is starting to get interesting!!

(sits back to watch)



Cheers

Pete H
9th Jul 2006, 22:05
Oh blimey :eek: im not happy with them :)

Ive given up sticking me hands in holes and the such like.
Ive invested in a telescopic walking pole for the job,and i can tell you it works really well.

R0Y
9th Jul 2006, 22:49
This thread is starting to get interesting!!

(sits back to watch)



CheersMind if i pull up a chair and rip the top off a cold one alongside fella?

Stephen
10th Jul 2006, 10:07
arghhhh that's my worst fear in geocaching when sticking hands on holes.

Couple of years ago my uncle was bit on leg by a adder in wales, whilst he was fishing an old canal lock lake. Not fatal yes but it screwed up his system for months and had problems with his leg for a long time. Think he said his leg was black in colour for awhile too. So much for people who say an adder bite is like a nasty bee sting.

Slowworm, we got them in our garden. I do not touch them, but they are cool and like that they are there to be found.

Stephen
10th Jul 2006, 10:13
Oh we got the BLACK adder too! would that be classed a 4th snake even though still an adder? There was a excellent docu on TV about them in devon I think they where.

Dave-H
10th Jul 2006, 11:20
Oh we got the BLACK adder too! would that be classed a 4th snake even though still an adder? There was a excellent docu on TV about them in devon I think they where.
No, something to do with genes iirc. Still just an Adder.

ROB 110 HICAP
10th Jul 2006, 11:39
Nice picks Adrian!

My sisters dog got bitten last week by an adder. Head and kneck swelled up good and proper. The vet gave him the neccesary jab and swelling went down after 2 days. They can be fatal for small dogs and kids, casualty or vet for definite if bitten.

In Morocco i p*ssed off a scorpian good and proper....he wandered out in front of me while relieving myself, so I aimed at him and he scuttled back under his rock!

Stephen
10th Jul 2006, 13:00
I wonder how many unofficial non native breeds of snake we have living in the wild.

Marc Lurie
10th Jul 2006, 14:35
Still just an Adder.
A very common snake here (all over Southern Africa) is the Puff Adder, who's definitely NOT "just an Adder" :eek:

They're lazy snakes and will often feign death when you approach them. I guess they're hoping you'll just go away. Most people get bitten by either standing on one, or accidentally touching one while climbing or hiking. The venom is cytotoxic (travels through the lymph and causes flesh to die), and highly dangerous. Without treatment death is a certainty, and even with immediate treatment, the loss of large pieces of tissue is virtually unavoidable.

Fortunately, they are slow to anger, and there aren't many puffadder bite cases annually.

Stephen, I was told that the chances of non-indigenous snakes being present in any meaningful quantity in the UK was extremley unlikely given that an escaped snake would have to a) survive your winter, b) adapt to the available food which is different from his natural habitat, c) compete with your own snakes and other predators, and d) find another of his own species to mate with.