For AJC and Si Guru - and anyone else really...

[adrianandkate]

Just to warn you two terrors of the internet search engines ...... we shall shortly be posting the weekend quiz (did you say post an obscure one AJC?);)

A&K

[adrianandkate]

Make, model, year of introduction - and link with other company please?

That's for car.

For the coin - description of obverse and reverse please.

You can't win on the car without the coin.:D

(Oops nearly forgot the pix) K&A:)

[AJC]

Don't you dare give me hard times about posting small images again Kate (if it was you Kate. Adrian, I apologise if it was you). I just clicked on the car image and it came up in a new window the same size. Even my readers don't help!! ;)

Are the images related?

AJ

[adrianandkate]

Not remotely. Opposites really, ie you can see the coins and not the car:D :D

There is absolutely no intentional connection, although I have just thought of one that would possibly be more help than hindrance, happy to post it if you wish.

Also have a larger pic of the vehicle - that one is awful isn't it? :) ;) Adrian also thought it was terrible, even with his glasses, and said it would be a good one to post.:rolleyes:

Personally I would get the coin search out of the way first (that's quite easy), appeal to my better nature (:D :D ), and I will post a bigger pic of car. Answers are in the bag really.:) :)

[adrianandkate]

Silly me, hindrance than help, I meant.

[AJC]

The car is a Trabant saloon made by Sachsenring AG and introduced in 1957. A link to another company is Härterei und Qualitätsmanagement GmbH (HQM) of Leipzig who bought Sachsenring AG 2006.

The coin is Roman and shows shows the standing figure of Serapis, the Romano-Egyptian chief God on the reverse and the head of Ceaser on the front.

AJ

[adrianandkate]

So what's the tentative link between the coins and the vehicle?

You wouldn't be taking the serapis? ;) Oh and which Caesar? (You could obviously read that bit:D )

[AJC]

So what's the tentative link between the coins and the vehicle? No idea.


You wouldn't be taking the serapis? ;) :D


Oh and which Caesar? (You could obviously read that bit:D ) No idea.

AJ

[AJC]

Seeing as the Trabant has been mentioned here is a fun cache (http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=45277c37-24a0-47a9-b5b0-b8fac7d8b7e2) for anyone interested in Geocaching. No GPS required and you don't have to leave your PC screen.

AJ

[adrianandkate]

You do give up easily don't you?

It's not a Trabant. The coin is Roman. The coin shows a Caesar, and a goddess. Hence not Serapis. You'll have to confer with Si Guru as to whether or not you want me to give you another pic or more clues or what.

Is this a team effort or an individual one? If it's team, I'll also say more about the coin in relation to your Serapis answer so far.

Good effort on the coin. Kate (Adrian coughing in bed)

[adrianandkate]

Are you hi-jacking my quiz 'cos you can't win? :D You have your own geocaching forum. You only do it because you can't read maps.;)

[adrianandkate]

And you have to sign in too. Not as nice as old coins.

[Sandy M.]

Is it a FIAT Trojan?

Probably never was such a car :rolleyes: , but its the best that I can think of at the moment :D .

[AJC]

You do give up easily don't you?I've been off work today with the intention of decorating. Being bored with it, I had a couple of hours break walking the dog and then got sucked into your quiz so I better get cracking or Mrs AJ isn't going to be happy with my lack of progress. :eek:


Are you hi-jacking my quiz 'cos you can't win? :D You have your own geocaching forum. You only do it because you can't read maps.;):D


And you have to sign in too. Not as nice as old coins.Anything is better than old coins. ;)

I must get scraping!!

AJ

[adrianandkate]

good guess but no

the make isn't fiat, and the model isn't trojan

but you have more or less got the tentative link (nice quizmistress here...):)

the name of the model is an Italian one (and the coins are Roman...)

the emperor isn't trojan either by the way

come on, there were/are lots of cars, there were not lots of Roman emperors

the coin is easy

[AJC]

So what's the tentative link between the coins and the vehicle?They're both European. :rolleyes:

AJ

[educationalist]

So what's the tentative link between the coins and the vehicle?

You wouldn't be taking the serapis? ;) Oh and which Caesar? (You could obviously read that bit:D )

It aint' Julius he had a large hooked nose! :rolleyes:

[adrianandkate]

They're both European. :rolleyes:

AJ

Italian - I beat you to the post, if I geocached I would beat you to that too:D

Have you got a steam stripper by the way??:D :D


It aint' Julius he had a large hooked nose! :rolleyes:

No here is Julius, one off the list, although arguable as to whether he was an emperor (I would say not.....)

[adrianandkate]

pic 2 of the car as you are nearly there (sort of) with the coin

sorry about the size - it's not deliberate :D honest

if it's still not good enough I'll find a better one - unless you beat me to it

Kate

[adrianandkate]

They're both European. :rolleyes:

AJ

Ooops, don't want to mislead anyone. The link is Italian, as described earlier - coin, Roman, model of car, Italian name.

Car is not European. Although......remember the very first question about link with other manufacturer. (Not Italian though)

More pix needed???

[si_guru]

Ahh, got from the second pic.

It had to be Japanese as is RHD..


1961 Nissan Hino Contessa PC10

Hino Motors Ltd., which absorbed the technological guidance of Renault, independently developed and planned the Contessa 900, which was released in April 1961. The design details of the Renault 4CV and Hino's own technology were used, but the body styling was new, and, it was given the appropriate Italian word "Contessa"signifying countess. By utilizing a rear engine and rear-wheel-drive system, the car was noted for its maneuverability and smooth-running engine. In 1963, it entered the Japan Grand Prix and took first place in the class.


...for ages I thought it was some Renault thing as well. I was trying to research Romania companies as I thought the coin was from Dacia... :o

[adrianandkate]

Make, model, year of introduction - and link with other company please?

That's for car.

For the coin - description of obverse and reverse please.

You can't win on the car without the coin.:D



Don't forget the original rules. No car without coin. :D


Ahh, got from the second pic.

It had to be Japanese as is RHD..


1961 Nissan Hino Contessa PC10

Hino Motors Ltd., which absorbed the technological guidance of Renault, independently developed and planned the Contessa 900, which was released in April 1961. The design details of the Renault 4CV and Hino's own technology were used, but the body styling was new, and, it was given the appropriate Italian word "Contessa"signifying countess. By utilizing a rear engine and rear-wheel-drive system, the car was noted for its maneuverability and smooth-running engine. In 1963, it entered the Japan Grand Prix and took first place in the class.


...for ages I thought it was some Renault thing as well. I was trying to research Romania companies as I thought the coin was from Dacia... :o

Interesting response, but if you think this is right, and someone else uses it and gets the coin - they win.

Good effort. Was the coin from Dacia? Search me? Doubt it though. Obverse and reverse still apply. Incidentally, never heard of Hino before today...:rolleyes:

[si_guru]

Incidentally, never heard of Hino before today...:rolleyes:

You've never been to Ireland then... I'd say 50% of tipper trucks in Ireland are Hino's... ..don't know why though!

[adrianandkate]

Yes we have. (NI and Ireland) But it wasn't to look at tipper trucks or Shamrocks (convertibles;) ).

It was really to look round, visit, explore, the usual sort of naff tourist stuff - and keep out of the soft rain.

Coin ???????????????

[si_guru]

Coin ???????????????

So.....

1961 Nissan Hino Contessa PC10

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Obverse: Bust of Venus
Reverse: Octavian leading the troops into battle
Legend: CAESAR DIVI F

[AJC]

The coin doesn't exist! :confused:

AJ

[adrianandkate]

The coin doesn't exist! :confused:

AJ

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: I think the phrase is "I can't find it"

here (http://www.romancoins.info/12C-JulioClaud.HTML#Augustus) it is and here (http://www.usask.ca/antiquities/coins/augustus.html) is some stuff about Augustus, who as Si Guru can no doubt tell you, restored peace and the republic to the Roman people, and from 27BC was known as Augustus rather than (Caius) Octavius.

Apparently the coin was one of a series, one side with Octavius and the other depicting a god/dess. You can tell how long it is since I used to look at this sort of stuff as when I glanced at it I thought Venus was the young Octavius, and then wondered who the dancing dervish was...:rolleyes: .



So.....

1961 Nissan Hino Contessa PC10

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Obverse: Bust of Venus
Reverse: Octavian leading the troops into battle
Legend: CAESAR DIVI F

:bowdown::bowdown: car & military vehicle supremo and numismatist/ancient historian:eek: I won't ask you to translate DIVI F by the way ;) There is lots about the Contessa on the net and lots of nice pix to choose from - unlike the Shamrock. I thought the history of the company, and the car, was quite interesting. Did you know anything about them? Here (http://forums.photobucket.com/showthread.php?t=4261) is another pic that would prob have been even more of a giveway..

[AJC]

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: I think the phrase is "I can't find it":o



I won't ask you to translate DIVI Scouse word innit?:D

AJ

[si_guru]

Scouse word innit?:D

:LAA: :rotfl:

[educationalist]

Augustus 27 BC - 14 AD, one of the 12 Caesars of Suetonius. In the Julio-Claudian Dynasty. The coin was minted to celebrate a victory and was one of a series. The coin is found in the www.imperiumromanum.info (http://www.imperiumromanum.info/) a web based museum (nice idea) coin page
http://www.romancoins.info/12C-JulioClaud.HTML#Augustus (http://www.romancoins.info/12C-JulioClaud.HTML#Augustus)

[TEMPL4R]

So, what's the link between the Hino and the Coin?

Chris (totally baffled :) )

[AJC]

So, what's the link between the Hino and the Coin?

Chris (totally baffled :) )Letters O, I and N. :rolleyes:

AJ

[adrianandkate]

I'm glad I've already cooked the pimientos!:D :D :D and :rotfl: :rotfl: at AJC's latest connection

I did say earlier it was Italian (read all the posts Chris:) ) ie the car had an Italian name, and the coins are Roman, ie Italian. I think there was some Italian design in the Contessa too, but as you all realise I know nothing about trucks, I mean cars.

off to eat the pimientos me.:)

[TEMPL4R]

read all the posts Chris:) .......

ie the car had an Italian name, and the coins are Roman, ie Italian. I think there was some Italian design in the Contessa too,
I did, but it still didn't make any sense.:)

Does now.

Chris

[adrianandkate]

So, what's the link between the Hino and the Coin?

Chris (totally baffled :) )

Just to clarify. There was no intentional link. AJC asked for an obscure quiz. I thought a Roman coin was suitably obscure on a land rover forum - but very interesting;) . And would make it more difficult for him or Si Guru so they couldn't win in five minutes (or four or whatever the record is). No coin, no car, so to speak. When we had picked the two out of the blue, I then realised there was a vague connection - ie linguistic. Kate, now retired from quizes and off to burn the alcachofa salad.