2 ways....

[V8-110]

Just bought these....Cant use em properly yet without the Landy working but at least I can order a cup of coffee from the shed while I'm working away:D





Mike

[redhand]

Just bought these....Cant use em properly yet without the Landy working but at least I can order a cup of coffee from the shed while I'm working away:D





Mike

Mud-Club and LRUK at the same time you really can't get enough can you.:D :D
What range and battery life do you get? and where did you get them how much etc??

[V8-110]

Mud-Club and LRUK at the same time you really can't get enough can you.:D :D
What range and battery life do you get? and where did you get them how much etc??


Ha ha, just LRUK mate the other one is I-tunes.:D I got the radios from argos for 70euro. They have an 8km range and 30 hour battery life. They're also water resistant and shock proof:rolleyes:




Mike

[Devon-Rover]

Nice i have these.

Freequency 201-TX (http://www.yachtbits.com/freequency/freequency_pmr201tx_radio_set.php)

[Marc Lurie]

They have an 8km range and 30 hour battery life. They're also water resistant and shock proof:rolleyes:

Man, I get so mad when I see claims like this being made. Claiming an 8km range is, to my mind, a guarantee that these radios will cover 8km.

In reality, these radios will give you no more than 500m range RELIABLY. The emphasis is on "reliably".

If you had one radio, and your mate was in the space shuttle 500km away, you would be able to talk to him on the other, but no sane person would claim that the radio has a range of 500km. Yes, there are times when you'll cover 8km, or even more, but in REAL LIFE SITUATIONS, forget it.

[V8-110]

Man, I get so mad when I see claims like this being made. Claiming an 8km range is, to my mind, a guarantee that these radios will cover 8km.

In reality, these radios will give you no more than 500m range RELIABLY. The emphasis is on "reliably".

If you had one radio, and your mate was in the space shuttle 500km away, you would be able to talk to him on the other, but no sane person would claim that the radio has a range of 500km. Yes, there are times when you'll cover 8km, or even more, but in REAL LIFE SITUATIONS, forget it.


You get mad very easily:rolleyes: I don't expect them to give me 8km of coverage, and you are right, if they claim 8km then they should work for 8 kms. But if they work within a reasonable distance, and are clear enough to hear what's being said, then I'm happy!



Mike

[V8-110]

Nice i have these.

Freequency 201-TX (http://www.yachtbits.com/freequency/freequency_pmr201tx_radio_set.php)

Nice one, I'll have to have a look through that website:)




Mike

[SeriesIIIOwner]

As regard to the Range of 446Mhz I do tend to agree with Marc comments, though if you read the instructions there is the small print which will say something like range depends terrian that'll be there 'get out clause'

The one thing that lets these little radios down is the aerials, there are just helical wound. if you compare them to the 'professional' versions with proper matched aerials and it's surprising on the range you can get even with the 500mw allowed.;)

The problem there is with 446 is that certinally in major cities there are so many children/young people that are verbally abusing those who are tring to use the radios for business purposes. I'm not aganst young people using radio for chatting to friends, etc but there needs to be some control and thats what's lacking.:(

[TBM]

I often use my two ways when I travelling in convoy. Much easier to give directions, co-ordinate petrol stops etc. However, if you're out of vision then they don't tend to function that well.

[Marc Lurie]

You get mad very easily:rolleyes:

Only because it affects my livelihood.

I'm in the two-way radio industry, and I often lose sales of professional equipment to customers who pick up some of the 446MHz stuff, read the label and say "Oh good, 8km range... Why do I need to spend the kind of money Marc wants when I can just get these little guys?"

So what happens is Joe Bloggs the plumber asks me for advice. I suggest professional equipment, but he goes out and buys consumer equipment at a third of the price. When it doesn't work as well as he thought it would, he doesn't come back to me for the correct equipment because he's embarrased, so he goes off and buys it somewhere else. So I've done all the work, but I don't get to see the sale.

And it's surprising how many customers I've lost to these little radios and their claim of 8km range.

I think I'm allowed to get a bit mad. ;)

[SeriesIIIOwner]

And it's surprising how many customers I've lost to these little radios and their claim of 8km range.

I think I'm allowed to get a bit mad. ;)


So would I

[V8-110]

Only because it affects my livelihood.

I'm in the two-way radio industry, and I often lose sales of professional equipment to customers who pick up some of the 446MHz stuff, read the label and say "Oh good, 8km range... Why do I need to spend the kind of money Marc wants when I can just get these little guys?"

So what happens is Joe Bloggs the plumber asks me for advice. I suggest professional equipment, but he goes out and buys consumer equipment at a third of the price. When it doesn't work as well as he thought it would, he doesn't come back to me for the correct equipment because he's embarrased, so he goes off and buys it somewhere else. So I've done all the work, but I don't get to see the sale.

And it's surprising how many customers I've lost to these little radios and their claim of 8km range.

I think I'm allowed to get a bit mad. ;)



Ok I can see why you'd get mad. I wasn't looking for professional equipment, so these little radios will do me fine. Like TBM said, they are handy for conversations between cars, routes and fuel stops and the like. Would it be feasible for you to advise Joe Bloggs the plumber to buy the professional equipment, and if he's not keen on spending so much, then reluctantly sell him the consumer models. Either way you see a sale.:)





Mike

[Marc Lurie]

Would it be feasible for you to advise Joe Bloggs the plumber to buy the professional equipment, and if he's not keen on spending so much, then reluctantly sell him the consumer models. Either way you see a sale.:)

Mike

Nope. I have professional pride in what I do, and if I can't do a job properly, I'd rather not do it. If I may blow my own trumpet here: My company has been the top Motorola Dealer in Southern Africa for the past 7 years largely because we are dedicated to providing our clients with the correct tool for the job. We're also the top dealer because all the other dealers are a bunch of losers, but that's another story. :rolleyes:

That's not to say I don't sell the little commercial radios, because I do. We sell them into applications where they're perfect, like in your situation. They do the job they're meant to do, at an affordable price. :)

It's only the packaging advertising that annoys me. I can't advertise that professional equipment has that range, so why can they?

Cheers,
Marc

[V8-110]

[quote=Marc Lurie;806358]

It's only the packaging advertising that annoys me. I can't advertise that professional equipment has that range, so why can they?


It is wrong that they claim certain things in their advertising that isn't exactly true, and they cover themselves by having a disclaimer about range. But things like that happen all the time and they will keep getting away with it. You obviously have the right idea in customer service and it shows with the popularity of your company. I'm keen to do a range check on my radios now, just to see what they are capable of:)



Mike

[Marc Lurie]

Well Mike, the best range test you can do is to get the two radios as high up as possible. You can quite easily cover 20 to 30 km if you're both on very high ground.

I used to participate in VHF/UHF contests where the aim was to contact as many stations as possible in an allotted time.

We regularly used to log contacts on UHF (close to 446MHz) of over 400km, and I think the continental record is South Africa to Italy, although that's a once-off fluke and certainly not the norm.. Admittedly, we were using very high power (around 400 Watts) and excellent antennas, but we would easily get 80 to 100 km to very ordinary stations.

Cheers,
Marc

[gail185]

I'll check out the site as well.


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[redhand]

I was out near York on Saturday with my 25yr old CB switche on and I was picking up another cb'er 35miles (approx (50kms) away and he was as clear as if he was sat next to me. Mind you the vale of york is a very flat shallow bowl and I was sitting on one of the highest points there is. with nothing between me and Hull where the signal was coming from.