A few questions.

[Devon-Rover]

What does members think of this rifle (http://www.superbows.co.uk/air-guns/air-rifles/b2-1-air-rifle-22-calibre/prod_2.html) and This scope (http://www.superbows.co.uk/air-guns/scopes-sights/6-x-40-rifle-scope-mounts/prod_95.html)

A good quality set up? I'm looking to purchase my first rifle after spending a fair time now using my mates rifles I'm thinking towards getting my own.
I'll be spending my time plinking in the garden, but i have the offer of going to a few sites for rabbit and pigeon.
I don't have all the money in the world and just need something to last me for a bit.

Cheers for the advice.

[Dave-H]

The B2 is a cheap, poor quality chinese mass produced thing.
They are, quite frankly.......... sh1te !!

Waste of time as an airgun, handy for knocking nails in though ;)

Can't tell if scope is any good owing to no name etc, but at £22, don't expect stunning quality.

[Devon-Rover]

Ahhh ok.

Any suggestions then. It has to be cheap though!

[AJC]

Why don't you get down to Dartmoor Marksmen (my old club) where there's always a decent second hand rifle going. Depending on the model, decent second hand rifles were going for between £175 - £1000.

The club's location is not advertised but I can supply you with an e-mail address to arrange a look round if you wish to join.

You won't get anything for £20 ish though. A £20 rifle may be ok for plinking in the garden but for hunting it's not fair on the quarry as you may maim and not kill it.

AJ

[freelanderPX54]

A 6x40 scope will be crap. There is a formula for working out optimum magnification and objective lens. Generally, a 2.5 x 32 scope will be great for plinking and general hunting and you need to spend a bit more on a rifle. The maxim of you pays your money.... rings true. Yes you get a cheap rifle but after a while of unbalanced gun and poor results you will think s0d it, it is a pain in the posterior. Blackpool airguns have some good deals

[Devon-Rover]

Ok then.

Anyone want to buy my mountain bike? :( It'll be a shame to see it go but needs must.

[Devon-Rover]

Hi.

Ok here we try again

I have been offerd a crossman rabbit stopper in return for my kayak. Now is this a better rifle for pigeons and i assume rabbits too. lol

[AJC]

You realise that it's CO2 powered?

AJ

[Devon-Rover]

Yes. But after the comments on the B2 i guess this is better. lol.

[rusty_wingnut]

i've just bought one of those B2's :rolleyes:

it doesn't seem too bad, but i haven't fired it yet. you can tell its a cheap mass produced item. however the mechanics of it seem fairly solid if not amazing. the scope is ok, it's the first i've used but it is a definete improvement over open sights.

i didn't expect it to be great, i've got an old webley .22 and this gun seems very similar (possibly a copy?)

i've bought the .177 version as it had a higher exit velocity. I only use these guns for target practice, never for killing.

i paid £35 by the way and got the scope included.

[Alane]

Looks a bit like a HW35 are they cheaper copies?

I had a Rapid 7 for years, got it from Uttings with a 3.5x40 scope and a bi-pod that attatches to the air bottle on the front.

Probably the best combo I'm ever likely to use now SWMBO is a veggie:D

[Dave-H]

Yes. But after the comments on the B2 i guess this is better. lol.
Nope !
Runs from a little co2 canister, not very powerful. OK for rats, would not risk wounding a rabbit/pigeon with it.

Look on www.Uttings.com buy a proper rifle.
As a cheapie, may i suggest a BSA Supersport? good cheapish starter rifle.

[Devon-Rover]

Cheap! :eek:

Flipping eck. I thought that this would be a cheap part time hobby. Looks like the mountain bike is gonna have to go as well. if i'm to afford a something that will do the job. Might it be cheaper to buy an AK47 on the black market? :rolleyes:

So let me guess i'm not going to get a good second hand value on the Crossman then should i want to sell it. :( It does come with a scope and silencer. Having not got it yet i cannot say what it is like.
PITA this is as where ever i look i get 50% saying yes and 50% no it is rubbish. And those saying no say spend 300 quid then it is decent.

Ok then. What about the webley omega? Views on this is? Let me guess Complete rubbish too.

[Dave-H]

Webley Omega, good starter rifle :)
Man enough for bunnies and pigeons/corvids at 25/30 or so yards.

[rusty_wingnut]

the B2 is rated at 11.5lb/ft

[Devon-Rover]

Ohhh seems i'm in a right pickle as to what to do. Will i get much for a crossman should i sell it? Or maybe speak to a local shop and see whether they will do an exchange for a ok Spring rifle?

I'll prolly get the Webley as my little bro wants to start shooting.

MMMM what to do.

[AJC]

My mate's .22 Webley Omega is over 20 years old and still going strong. ;)

AJ

[Dave-H]

the B2 is rated at 11.5lb/ft

So they "claim" :rolleyes:
I've chrono'd 3, best was 8.9 ft/lb

[Devon-Rover]

So when i do get the money together. What is the best Springer i can get in the round about 100 quid catagory?

[conkers]

I've got a B2 and it's great if you want to shoot round corners;)
Well actually it's worse than Dave claims I had to put a scope on it as there was no way the open sites will adjust far enough over:rolleyes: could be just a duff one but it came from a car boot so no refund:(
I've also got a crossman ratcatcher great for plinking and rats in the garden but as said wouldn't want to try it on bunnies, I have something else I want to try on them see avitar.

[rusty_wingnut]

So they "claim" :rolleyes:
I've chrono'd 3, best was 8.9 ft/lb

don't get me wrong mate i don't expect it to be amazing. but surely if they've mis-sold me this rifle they will have to provide me with an 11.5ft/lb one ;)


(trying to get a better one without paying for it basically.... gotta love being a student!)

EDIT: really should has asked here before buying it.

[Shaun TDi 200]

Cometa 300s - mossy oak MAP

For £225 you'll not find much better IMO

And if you are hunting you need the right pellets too.

[tinyone]

i have got a crossman rabbit stopper 2260 and it is bliddy good for its price at 120 brand new when i first got it (3-4 years ago)
quite powerful at the legal limit and will take bunnies out to 30yds (very good range for an airgun) good at plinking and sor far fired 3000-4500 shots!!:rolleyes:
still going strong.

cant go wrong with that go for it the b2 however is crap a friend had it and it wont hit a bucket at 10m!!:eek:

for a scope go ags.

money no object go for a skan (32 shot)
but remember with a co2 gun get the blinking capsules (12g):D.

tiny "35 rabbits in 2 months in a sparsely populated area for rabbits isn't bad" one:p

[tinyone]

and for gods sake don't get a springer nowerdays if a good starter gun for silence no recoil at all go air or co2;)
how much is the rabbit stopper you have been offered

[Shaun TDi 200]

For a starter gun GET a springer. Once you learn to shoot with that then you can shoot with anything.

Just purchased a very nice BSA lightning. :)