Freelander MPG

[screwy]

Hiya, not often in here as I own a lush Series 2A! BUT I saw an advert for Freelander (now cheaper as new model coming in) at the local dealers and in the tiny print it says that the urban(?) MPG is 20. Is this is a bit on the juicy side and does it reflect with your experiences?

I can understand the Disco and RR being juicy, but the Freelander, I thought, was almost meant to be a car equivilant? Seems poor performance to me, but wanted your opinions. Have thought about getting one of these at some point in the future BUT at that kind of economy, my Series 2A is comparable fuel wise??!!!

Just curious......:dunno1:

[s.stirley]

Was that the V6 auto ? :)

My TDi (with 112k on the clock now !) is returning 36-38 regularly, and a friends lower mileage TDi does even better. Someone else I know with a 1.8 gets high 20's all the time, up to 34 on a cruise.

The TD4 is around 37'ish from the manual, but only 32 from the auto.

Those are average figures, urban only is a lot worse in the petrol models - but not so much lower in the diesel.

They are much more comparable with cars, for sure. Heavy cars :)

[stevec]

Those figures seem right. My 18 month old TD4 auto is coming up to 27000 and it's returned 32.34 mpg over that period.

[garryforrestuk]

Steve check your private messages please.garry

[russ]

That sounds like the urban figure for the V6 auto.

Awful motor, it goes fast(ish) don't get me wrong, and sounds nice too, but progress isn't swift, not especially since it has such a bad drinking problem!

My TD4 Auto returns around 32mpg in town use, 36mpg on cruise, 33mpg on fast cruise (90+ mph)

[screwy]

Your figures sound more believable. Just thought for a modern car that 20mpg was bloody appalling! In a BEntly, yes, a top-of-the-range luxury car, yes, but not a Freelander!

Is the deisel the best engined option in the range then, mpg over performance wise?

[Desert Warrior]

I have a 1.8 and get 34mpg on motorways and avg 26-30mpg mixed driving. I have NEVER had anywhere near 20mpg!

[russ]

Originally posted by screwloose
Your figures sound more believable. Just thought for a modern car that 20mpg was bloody appalling! In a BEntly, yes, a top-of-the-range luxury car, yes, but not a Freelander!

Is the deisel the best engined option in the range then, mpg over performance wise?

Yes,

The diesel has a bucket load of torque which gives quite a turn of speed...races are won on torque not bhp ;)

take a look at the 30-50mph times on the petrol versus diesel, that huge amount of torque really shines through despite giving away (8bhp to the 1.8 and 66bhp to the V6)

Anyway a simple chip will crank up the power and torque if they are not enough for you! :) Especially as the diesel is turbo charged! :D
Diesel fuel gives 12% more bang per buck than petrol as it is more reactive and since no ignition involved in the 'combustion' process diesel burns more effectively plus it runs cooler which means cooler air comes into the manifold and combusts more readily.
The only time i have ever had both cooling fans on was driving through the narrow streets of Toledo in 41 degrees C heat with the air con on at full blast.

[Jon Bx]

I have a V6 freelander and can confirm the mpg is awful - seldom topping 20 to the gallon - Mine is LPG converted though :Dwhich at half the price of petrol brings up the petrol equivalent to the 40mpg mark - still not brilliant but much better!

[RealBeale]

I have a V6 freelander and can confirm the mpg is awful - seldom topping 20 to the gallon - Mine is LPG converted though :Dwhich at half the price of petrol brings up the petrol equivalent to the 40mpg mark - still not brilliant but much better!

Have to agree.I love my V6 but that drinking habit at todays fuel prices is crippling.
How's you'rs on gas? Would you recommend it?
I'm having mine lifted next month.It's already got a snorkel and a few other bling off road bits.It's also having the 04 front and back end fitted soon, maybe a full interior cage next year................

[happyhippo]

I have a chipped Freelander XEDi (rover diesel engine) and amazed everyone including myself when I recorded 48.6 mpg for a specific 200 mile journey. Granted it was mostly motorway and I kept the speed to that of the heavy lorries (about 60mph) but I was astounded at the fuel saving that can be had with careful driving.

Normal fuel consumption at 70mpg or more is about 35mpg. The performance is as good or better than the standard TD4 engine although the general fuel efficiency is not as good. As for reliability I've just topped 100,000 miles with no real problems apart from the rear sub-frame fix.
Happyhippo

[brooklynodog]

My 03 td4 returns from 35-40 mpg depending on how heavy the foot is.

[fergie2035]

There can be a huge difference between average mpg and "urban" mpg. A petrol Feelander that averages 27mpg could well do only 20mpg on really congested urban roads. I had a Sierra that would do 28mpg running about but about 22-23 on short runs and in heavy commuting traffic. TD4 is pretty good. Mine gave 39.8mpg on a run to North Wales and back with 5 of us plus luggage.

[garyrigden]

my 1.8 petrol does about 22mpg on short runs and running round town but on a long run i get 28-30mpg even with mud tyres on. not that fantastcic i know but hey if we wanted an economical car we would all be driving round in those stupid prius things.

[doobreydog]

I have V6 on LPG as well....never fails to return equivalent of minimum 40+mpg penny for penny depending on cost of gas compared to unleaded & diesel & will put most silly boy racers to shame.

[Jon Bx]

Have got a spreadsheet going now - My last tank full of LPG averaged me out at only 17 mpg (34 petrol equivalent) - Which is awful if you think about it... My journeys are pretty much stop start heavy urban for the most part though.

But hey.... could be worse... could be paying £1.12 a litre rather than 56p.

Does anyone know if following LPG conversion there can be any mods done to the ECU to improve consumption?

[Voodoo1976]

I run a 2005 TD4 with 78000k on the clock and get 34MPG. I do a very mixed bag of Motorway/Urban/Traffic in my daily commute.

[doobreydog]

Does anyone know if following LPG conversion there can be any mods done to the ECU to improve consumption?


Had mine initially set up by conversion company and was very similar to standard performance and was returning equivalent of 36-38 avg mpg......have since had stainless exhaust with single box and motor was electronically "tweaked" (dont ask me what) now get better performance and higher MPG on gas....(even round town with heavy right boot minimum of 40mpg equiv and much more on decent motorway trips....recent 400mile round trip with small camping trailer keeping my speed in check and returned 48mpg equiv)must admit though on rare occasion I have had to run on petrol it really does seem to use use a lot more.....but that could just be my fear of £1.20 odd per ltr:D

Ps For anyone driving with auto you will find that using the manual mode will make a huge saving.

[pete coxon]

posted this in another part of this site (apologies).
data reflect careful measurement and are realistic:

further to fuel consumption of a 1.8 (2006) freelander petrol

open road 10l per 100km (23.5 miles/gallon)
busy city (dublin) 13.5l per 100km (17 miles/gallon)

averaged over 45,000 km

expensive in congested streets!


pete

[ladycool]

Ooer maybe I should have read up a bit more before i recently bought my freelander V6 auto...
I just dived in without thinking story of my life lol..

I do like it but it does love a good drink, not sure of mileage but have read its 22mpg..:confused:

Still guess prices for gas coming down at the moment so getting better:D


How costly is a LPG conversion for these landy's ?

[Jon Bx]

You will be very lucky if you get 22 mpg unless on a good run. I drive between Northampton and MIlton Keynes every day in mine and average about 18 mpg

The gas conversion on these is about 2 grand so not really worth the investment unless you a) want to keep the vehicle for years or b) drive lots of miles.

I bought mine already converted and certainly would not have gone down this route if I was paying for petrol!

The 2.5 v6 is a real pocket rocket for a 4x4 just make sure you treat yours to regular oil changes and annual coolant change for trouble free driving. Ignore this advice and head gasket problems will soon be your best friend :biggrin:

[loui]

I own the V6 freelander and the mpg is pretty crap. I'm after an LPG conversion...anyone know of a good place in Kent?

I have heard there is one in Welling?

[loui]

I've got the V6 and mileage is pretty bad. Anyone know a local (Sidcup) garage doing LPG conversions??

[doobreydog]

Many moons since I have been down that way but you might want to try

http://www.drivelpg.co.uk/approved_installer.php (http://www.drivelpg.co.uk/approved_installer.php)

http://www.uklpg.org/ (http://www.uklpg.org/)

or a quick google

[robbie77]

Well we haven't had a post on the subject of mpg for a while, so i thought i would re-open the can of worms :eek:

My car is a 55 plate td4, 3 door hardback. It was re-mapped in June, giving a lot better performance, but thats a different thread :)

I filled up my car to the top twice today....

Once after 340 miles of town driving. Some were driven like i stole it and some were driven like i was on my way to pick a new tartan rug on a fine autmnal Sunday morning, oblivious to the queue behind me :D.
On this full tank of fuel, it worked out at an average of 33.25mpg.

When i had filled it up, i did a 288 mile journey on A roads and motorways. I didn't nail it all the way but cruised at around 80 and a few miles at 90. There was no real stopping and starting, just nice and flowing. When i got back i filled up to the top again to work out the average.
The average for this journey was 31.30mpg.

This was my little true story for today, now may the debates continue.
I would particulary like to thank Maffy in advance for his comments on my "lead foot", and Ray for the re-map, i still love the performance

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