Stolen:please Read.......

[RealBeale]

Just went down the back to carry on with an extensive re-build of my 200 Disco off roader.A number of items have been stolen - Safari Snorkel, tubular bumper, part of a lift kit including BF Goodrich extended braided hoses, Monroe gas shocks, intercooler and rad,4x4 Bits RDX headlights, TD5 grille ( customised)...
These were all taken from the vehicle itself causing major damage to brand new inner arches and front panel.I'm surprised nobody heared this happening as it must have taken at least an hour and 2 people to accomplish.There has also been attempts at other componants aswell.
Unfortunately, as the vehicle was kept off road in an area only accessable to residents via huge galvernised gates and as it was being restored it was not insured after June.It had been there for at least 10 months whilst insured with no problems at all.The area is normally secure.
Anyway, if you are in the North Birmingham area - or anywhere really (internet, Ebay) and are offered any of these type of items cheap then they may be mine.The snorkel and the bumper will have traces of yellow paint.The bumper has a sticker - "if you can read this-turn me over" although this may have been removed.The paint on the snorkel won't come off so this will be a big give away.
I have decided to put up the rest of the Disco for sale so if you are after anything let me know.It has cost a fortune so far and I can't afford to put it all right again.

Cheers........
Ian

[auld snake hips]

what a bitch

[auld snake hips]

just had a thought if u havent reported this 2 police yet then dont, get it insured 4 all the bells n whistles u can, wait 4 about 6 weeks then report it n put in a claim. insurance companies screw us all the time. [get something back]

[Satancom]

just had a thought if u havent reported this 2 police yet then dont, get it insured 4 all the bells n whistles u can, wait 4 about 6 weeks then report it n put in a claim. insurance companies screw us all the time. [get something back]

And put the insurance rates up for everyone else in his street at renewal time.. yeah nice one!

[Satancom]

Sorry to hear about the theft.. makes you wonder what the point is eomtimes don't it!

[RealBeale]

I'va already reported it to the Police.As for insurance, my 300ES was broken into earlier this year and now my renewal quote is 50% higher than before, so that's put me right off claiming.Especially knowing I would be claiming fraudulantly.I probably wouldn't be able to reinsure next time thus losing my hobby - no, just not worth it.

[auld snake hips]

the insurance companys r putting prices up all the time anyway 1 more claim is going 2 make no differance

[auld snake hips]

have u tried adrian flux 4 insurance they havent been 2 bad with me

[AJC]

the insurance companys r putting prices up all the time anyway 1 more claim is going 2 make no differance
The reason the premiums are going up is probably because of people like you putting in fraudulent claims.

If your input into the forums is suggestions such as that, I wouldn't bother.

AJ

[AJC]

have u tried adrian flux 4 insurance they havent been 2 bad with meThey might be if they discover how your mind works.

AJ

[auld snake hips]

wind yir neck in n stop taking life so serious yir beginning 2 sound like a politician n we all know how trustworthy they are

[AJC]

wind yir neck in n stop taking life so serious yir beginning 2 sound like a politician n we all know how trustworthy they areBeing a Mod of these forums I won't be winding my neck in. Fraud is serious and these forums will not allow comments such as yours go unchecked or appear to be condoned.

AJ

[auld snake hips]

im really very sorry if i have offended u or anyone else with my stupid n irresponsible comments i would not like 2 corrupt any law abiding citizen i just hope u will accept my sincere and humble apologies xxx [now smile n say hiya pal]

[tonywitney]

Being a Mod of these forums I won't be winding my neck in. Fraud is serious and these forums will not allow comments such as yours go unchecked or appear to be condoned.

AJ

Boring......

Go on then, ban me from the forum! :razz: :razz:

[BrianH]

The reason the premiums are going up is probably because of people like you putting in fraudulent claims.

If your input into the forums is suggestions such as that, I wouldn't bother.

AJ

Hmmm. I can understand where you're coming from with that, but to be honest there's little you could say to me that would convince me to feel any kind of pity for an insurance company that gets ripped off with a small claim every now and then. In my opinion, they all rip us off anyway. They do it because they can, and they don't feel any remorse whatsoever for the likes of us do they!
Sorry if you don't like that opinion, but I've had my fingers burned with an insurance company before and so I just can't feel any sympathy for them I'm afraid!

On the subject of Adrian Flux, I found their insurance quote to be quite expensive, especially as I haven't made a claim for a long long time. Must be 7 years or so. They probably offer superior insurance for the 4x4 driver though, so it's a case of weighing up the pros and cons I guess.

Sorry to hear of your loss. I will cerainly keep my eye out as I'm always scanning Ebay for bits and pieces, particularly for series 1 Discovery's. If I see anything suspect I shall let you know. I hope this experience hasn't put you off altogether!

Brian

[TEMPL4R]

Go on then, ban me from the forum! :razz: :razz:
I've no idea what Tony is talking about, anyone know something I don't?

Chris

[alex]

There is sometimes a line between what you think and what you say. The guy has apologised..so fair do`s. Meanwhile.. sincere sympathy for the loss of your goods and the time and money it has cost you. Makes you want to move somewhere quiet I suppose.

Alex

[smiler1]

Dude sorry to hear about you getting bummed like that, I will keep my eyes out for you.
Smiler :)

[tonywitney]

Try Lancaster Insurance, they were ultra cheap and very professional, unlike my other insurance company, who, when asked if my policy were to be cancelled would there be any penalty fee, promised me there would not. Subsequently, when the policy was cancelled 3 months later, I got a bill for 67 Quid!

It's rare to find a decent insurer. Lancaster were one of the very few to fit that bracket. Plus they specialise in Land Rovers.

Templ4R, re my response to AJC. I do not like veiled or unveiled threats. This is a forum for open-minded LandRover owners, and therefore topics of discussion should not be limited to 'pc' or 'controlled' issues. If someone wishes to suggest a way of circumnavigating certain issues, then let them. It breaks no law, and if someone were to choose to follow that path, you can be rest assured that they would have thought of doing so long before any suggestive comment as to 'how to' appeared on this forum.

[oneten110]

the insurance companys r putting prices up all the time anyway 1 more claim is going 2 make no differance

Don't kid yourself, I had 2 claims within 3 years and when I came to renew after the second claim, the only cover my insurer would offer was 3rd party. They wouldn't entertain fire, theft or any other type of cover. Tried various other companies and got the same story.

[TEMPL4R]

I take your point Tony, but I don't understand why you want to be Banned.

It seems a strange request, considering you haven't posted anything in the thread previously, certainly nothing in any other threads that suggests a ban should be even considered or warranted.

That's what's confusing me.

Chris

[AJC]

This is a forum for open-minded LandRover owners, and therefore topics of discussion should not be limited to 'pc' or 'controlled' issues.Tony, these forums are for open-minded Land Rover owners and many others too - non Land Rover owners, different races, religions and impressionable children etc so there is and there will continue to be, an element of controll and PC.

If someone wishes to suggest a way of circumnavigating certain issues, then let them. It breaks no law, Actually, inciting someone to do something against the law is in itself an offence, theft in particular.

and if someone were to choose to follow that path, you can be rest assured that they would have thought of doing so long before any suggestive comment as to 'how to' appeared on this forum. So why mention it if it's already been considered?

AJ

[BrianH]

Try Lancaster Insurance, they were ultra cheap and very professional

I'm with Lancaster too. My insurance went up this year which was a little dissapointing, but I did my homework and their renewal quote was still the cheapest. Been with them two years now.

Brian

[kev1379]

Fraud is serious My mate did not have have any insurance on his car. The car got nick, then he insurance it then repoted it stolen 3 mouths later all OK.
Untill thay found the car & persons driving it around for over 3 mouths yes he got nick him self for fraud.
When he tryed to get insurance NO ONE would in insurance him?? some did offer insurance on a mini(mini £200) for over £5,000 pounds.

I all so got point? for drive why ona mobile phone? sent licence of got lost on route back to me got my licence back after 2 mouths, went to insurane my TD5 & the insurance said if I had a accdent i would not of been insuraned I tryed to explane my licence was lost & did not know what the codes was? any why insurane went up by £165???

[educationalist]

Tony, these forums are for open-minded Land Rover owners and many others too - non Land Rover owners, different races, religions and impressionable children etc so there is and there will continue to be, an element of controll and PC.

Actually, inciting someone to do something against the law is in itself an offence, theft in particular.

So why mention it if it's already been considered?

AJ
Well said
Anyone with a modicum of sense does not openly motivate others to break the law.
While thinking or writing about committing a crime is not in its self-unlawful. You however must realize that you may well be culperable in British law to incite others to commit a crime by suggesting a way to break the law.
Give a fool enough rope and he will hang himself.

[nomoreleafs]

The reason the premiums are going up is probably because of people like you putting in fraudulent claims.

If your input into the forums is suggestions such as that, I wouldn't bother.

AJ
The fraudulent claims are on a much bigger scale than a VERY minor issue such as this.Insurance companies are making so much money that they dont bother looking into things UNLESS a silly amount of money is involved.(£10k,chicken feed to them).
A certain group of people use insurance companies as 'free banks',(quote from an insurance solicitor).
35 people on a coach TOUCHED in the rear by a small car,ALL of them making fraudulent claims for whiplash,imagine how much 35 whiplash claims would amount to.They were investigated and a video from the wedding they were attending was siezed,blow me down,there they are all dancing about right as rain.Claims rejected.

You need to see the bigger picture.

[Satancom]

Another cautionary tale! Someone I know had their car nicked as they wanted rid (was a shed and wouldn't have made any money on it). They paid someone to steal the car and gave them the keys..

Next morning phoned insurance saying car was stolen... The insurance requested the key they had been using to drive the car, she sent the spare.. Spare had a chip in it which when read said the car hadn't been started with hits key for like 6 months..

Insurance company said they would not be paying out and terminated this persons insurance.. They were lucky as they didn't press charges!

[nomoreleafs]

wind yer neck in:D :D :D .
Not heard that in a while,proper funny.

[nomoreleafs]

I was rammed in the rear by a nob head wagon driver.I could have got a couple of grand out of it but to be honest I just could not be bothered going through it all.
Didnt get a thank you letter from the insurance saying how much money i saved them,all i got was snotty phone calls regarding writing a letter about not claiming,it was if they were annoyed that i had not claimed.

Insurance companies.............procreate with them,or words to that effect.

[BrianH]

Last year when we had the snow I was stationary behind a stuck lorry, waiting for an opportunity to overtake. Some guy in a shogun came around too fast and, as I looked at him in the rear view mirror, it became obvious that he wasn't able to stop. He started to flash his lights in panic as a "by the way I'm gonna hit you" message but there were cars coming the other way so I was stumped. He hit my tow bar. Poor shogun.

I could have claimed whiplash too but, like you, I just couldn't be bothered with the hassle of it all. Plus the Shogun driver, besides being a jap-crap owner, was otherwise a nice enough guy! No damage to the Land Rover so I told him we could leave it at that.

My Sister just had her whiplash claim come through for an accident she was involved in. £2500. She actually DID have whiplash for real, but £2500??? Mad.
But if anyone expects me to feel sympathy for a business that regularly rips us all off... sorry no can do!

Brian

[tonywitney]

Well said
Anyone with a modicum of sense does not openly motivate others to break the law.
While thinking or writing about committing a crime is not in its self-unlawful. You however must realize that you may well be culperable in British law to incite others to commit a crime by suggesting a way to break the law.
Give a fool enough rope and he will hang himself.



AJC and Educationalist, It's probably pointless in arguing semantics with you both, as once you have a mindset, it is often difficult (and fruitless) to try changing that viewpoint.

However, lets talk facts. It certainly is NOT against the law to discuss ways and means of circumnavigating certain issues that lay outside the parameters of the law. You should do your homework. I have.

You also mention impressionable children. I take it then that in your cases, you do not let your children watch TV? The box is FULL of images of people breaking the law, in any way possible. You should realise that the odd comment on this site does not compete with life on the outside of this forum, when we consider the true reality of crime. If suggestion is a crime, then those who form pictorial messages of successful corruption, sedition and other transgressions of law are all culpable (BBC, ITV, etc).

You have both ramped up the verbage used, from "suggest' to 'incite', to support your view. There is a world of difference between those two words, and I find the term you have used distasteful.

The rest of your response is banal, and not worth responding to.

I for one find it hilarious that you have taken this so far. You should be well aware that many of members on this Forum would most likely disagree with the issues that you have raised.

Perhaps we should put it to vote?

[educationalist]

AJC and Educationalist, It's probably pointless in arguing semantics with you, as once you have a mindset, it is often difficult (and fruitless) to try changing that viewpoint.

However, lets talk facts. It certainly is NOT against the law to discuss ways and means of circumnavigating certain issues that lay outside the parameters of the law. You should do your homework. I have.

You have both ramped up the verbage used, from "suggest' to 'incite', to support your view. There is a world of difference between those two words, and I find the term you have used distasteful.

The rest of your response is banal, and not worth responding to.

I for one find it hilarious that you have taken this so far. You should be well aware that many of members on this Forum would most likely disagree with the issues that you have raised.

Perhaps we should put it to vote?
Oh! Dear, it looks like I have rattled part of your persuasive makeup. You are very astute to have noticed there is a world of difference between the words "suggest' and 'incite', there is also, as I am sure you already know, a world of difference between most words. Our language would be a tad difficult if this were not the case.

You are also I take it a very perceptive person! Moreover, one who evidently generalises as to a person’s character by only having to read a few composed words, you have a rare gift indeed.

And as to you thinking the rest of my/our response is banal and not worth reading or responding to, it makes me wonder if you are the type of individual who forms opinions by only having half the facts. A little bit like the person who reads a book but misses out the middle in their haste to read the last page, and then cannot understand the twist at the end.

One-thing worries me though, and that is your desire to gain confederates by instigating a vote, are you not admitting you lack a certain confidence in your own actions by doing so. You are what's more generalising again, on what you think are member’s opinion’s Surely you are not so grand as to be able to second guess their responses.

It is never pointless arguing with me; it is also possible to change my mindset, provided of course, that a better argument is offered to do so. However, no one can coerce me to break the law by written advice or otherwise, this contrary to your ‘homework’ is against the law, which perhaps you are not as Ofayé with as you think.

I am glad I have given you a few moments of hilarity; I am only here to please. But remember that if you wish to quote semantics at me which is the philosophical and scientific study of meaning, and while it sound very highbrow to use the word, remember that it boils down to one thing, and that is to 'signify' no less no more.

[AJC]

It certainly is NOT against the law to discuss ways and means of circumnavigating certain issues that lay outside the parameters of the law. You should do your homework. I have. Where's the discussion? You've used the word 'discuss' whereas the comment below was a very positive DO THIS and certainly not offered for discussion.

if u havent reported this 2 police yet then dont, get it insured 4 all the bells n whistles u can, wait 4 about 6 weeks then report it n put in a claim.

Incitement.

Incitement essentially involves soliciting, encouraging, pressurising or persuading another person to commit an offence. It is an offence to incite another person, whether or not the incitement is successful in persuading the person to commit or attempt to commit an offence.

Incitement to commit an offence which is triable only in a magistrate's court, is triable only in a magistrate's court; incitement to commit a triable either way offence, is triable either way and incitement to commit an offence which is triable only in the Crown Court, is triable only in the Crown Court. In the magistrate's court the maximum sentence is the same as it would have been if the person had been convicted of the incited offence. In the Crown Court the penalty is not limited and is at the discretion of the court.

I did do my homework.

AJ