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    Exclamation Crackdown on sale of illegal diesel...

    BBC Lunchtime news announce that Customs and Exciseare clamping down....again !
    Over 50 illegal factorys were closed down over the last year where red diesel was being changed to clear.
    Road side inspections in one way streets are about to launched throughout the UK ....

    Found this article too, just goes to show you cant trust what comes out of the garage pump either

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    Trading standards staff from Derbyshire County Council have joined forces with Customs and Excise to stamp out the sale of illegal diesel.

    Customs officers seized illegal diesel worth £18,000 from a Derbyshire garage following a joint operation with Derbyshire County Council trading standards to tackle the trade which is believed to be widespread.

    It is illegal to use red diesel - usually used in farm machinery - in road vehicles as it is a form of tax evasion. In order to evade detection, criminals are taking the red dye markers out of the diesel and selling it on to garages.

    By-products from the process are a threat to the environment say trading standards bosses who confirmed that plastic drums containing contaminated waste from the fuel have been found dumped in the Derbyshire countryside.

    The chemical waste can threaten the water table and children playing with discarded chemical containers could be harmed. Engines can also be damaged by the illegal diesel.

    The recent haul of illegal fuel was seized from a garage in Derbyshire after a driver reported to trading standards that his vehicle was damaged by suspect fuel.

    An engineer who examined the car found fuel components of the car were damaged and corroded and that fuel contaminated with chemicals was to blame.

    As the driver always used the same garage to fill up, trading standards were able to take a sample of fuel form the garage which, when tested by Customs and Excise, was found to be laundered.

    Laundered diesel starts its life as red diesel - a cheaper fuel designed for use in farm machinery and other non-road vehicles. It is coloured with a red dye and sold at a cheaper price as there is a much lower fuel duty on it.

    Organised criminals are laundering the diesel by adding acid or alkali to it to remove the colour and then selling it on to garages. However, enough of the dye marker is left in the fuel which can be detected in tests.

    Councillor Walter Burrows, the county council's cabinet member for public protection and transport, said: "This illegal activity is cheating the tax man and the motorist as well as being a serious environmental threat.

    "Trading standards officers are working hard to clamp down on this damaging trade and we are warning other rogue traders that we are committed stamping it out.

    "Traders who buy laundered diesel put honest filling stations out of business, give firms an unfair advantage over competitors and can put vehicles at risk of serious engine damage.

    "We will continue to work with Customs and Excise to prevent consumers from being defrauded in this way."

    Customs spokesman Phil Rogers said: "This case shows the benefit of multi-agency working as we tackle crime that takes money away from public services.

    "Using our fleet of oils testing trailers and road fuel testing vehicles, Customs aims to make local businesses and the public aware of the consequences of using illegal fuel."

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    Back to using the vegetable oil then

    Its cheap as chips..........
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    same here veg fat pay the nice man at cotsum s






    12p a ltr and he happy and the smell is ace
    "DI it" i would rather cut of my left nut

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    oh well thats no cheapo diseal or chip fat in my landy then and they stick the price of diesal right up anyway

    u gotta love the *Censored*
    Anit got a landy

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    It is illegal to use red diesel - usually used in farm machinery - in road vehicles as it is a form of tax evasion.
    So when a tractor drives on the road - which is a hell of a lot of the time these days, as they seem to be involved with general haulage and lowloader work half the time - why aren't they made to pay full price, like an HGV does?

    Oh-oh! Better not get started on the poor old farmers!!
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    Question

    What's the recipe for the vegy fat fuel then?

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    Originally posted by ser2diesel
    What's the recipe for the vegy fat fuel then?
    There was a thread about how to do it on this very forum....Info Here

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    I know that these people are breaking the law and i aint saying there right to do so, however it seems weird that customs are breaking there necks catching we guys with fuel and we guys coming over the channel with tobbacco and the big guys are getting ll sorts of drugs over our borders.
    We have seen a large increase in drugs comin ghere and yet we still seem hell bent in using the time getting the we guys.
    Again not saying we should get away with it, but maybe we should either increase the staff in order that they fight the war in all fronts or the concentrate more on the drug guys.
    Just my opinion of course.
    Have also to declare an interest in fuel having a landy and tobbacco given that i puff on my pipe all day long

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    Personally, I've no problem with the tax-man being ripped off. taxes should be lowered to the point where there is no profit in evading them.

    The reason the emphasis is placed on the "little" man is that the fuel recyclers and cross-channel smuglers are hitting the aparatus of state where it hurts them, in the revenue whereas people and drug smuggling shows no state profit so there is no incentive to harass the perpetrators. Any huffing & puffing by the authorities on these subjects is merely going through the motions.

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    So how would you get on if you had two fuel tanks, one with white diesel, and one with red diesel when you were using your Landy on the farm with a swtich over between the two tanks?

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    IIRC, 2006 is the next review point for rebated diesel sales. This is past the next election so I would guess that they will remove the provision for sale of "red" diesel to liesure marine users. At work we are a registered dealer in controlled oils and every month I compilea list of volumes sold for the Customs People. We had an audit last month, I was reporting all our sales including our plant useage. They said that they were not interested in anything other than liesure sales so as a WAG I would say that what they REALY want to know is how much revenue this will generate.

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    Rick, it would be just as illegal. The vehicle has to be registered as an agricultural vehicle, in which case there is a (very low) limit to how far it can be driven on the road.
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    The total sale of non-petrol should be stopped!
    If there wasn't petrol - I would pedal

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    "So when a tractor drives on the road - which is a hell of a lot of the time these days, as they seem to be involved with general haulage and lowloader work half the time - why aren't they made to pay full price, like an HGV does?"

    Because they are involved in agricultural business, and red diesel is intended for agricultural use. Well 99% of them are, the ******s who run Fastracs hauling diggers and stuff around are the ones you should be ranting at, not the "poor old farmers".

    Signed, a honest tractor driver.

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    Who says they are running with red diesel the tractor drivers who are on the road everyday. We see on a regular basis a tractor driver who fills up at the loacl Jet garage. Depending on the time of the year, depends what is fitted to his machine, be it hedge cutter, back hoe, etc... You will then often find him cutting hedges or digging out blocked ditches around here, we assume been paid by the local council.
    Unless you stop and test the diesel, you have no way of knowing what is been used.

    C&E have to start somewhere, so they target an area and test the local population, this then gives them a chance to investigate further, and will help lead them to the supplier of the illegal diesel. It will be interesting to see how things progress, now the government has reduced taxation on Bio Diesel...
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