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    Which engine is best in a D110?? I can afford to buy any of them as my budget is fairly flexible (0-12K ish!)

    I was leaning towards the Tdi300, but would the TD5 be a better option, i'm also thinking the TD5 might have a few more of the "mod cons" i will miss from my car when i change over??

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    Slime,

    I would say a 300Tdi would be the way to go with that sort of money. You would be able to afford a TD5 but unless you can find a 2002 model (unlikeley for 12k) the mod cons will be as minimal as with a 300Tdi. Look for a late model 300 and you shouldn't go far wrong and get a lot of motor for your money.

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    Cheers, i realise its pushing it slightly for a TD5, but i'm after a hardtop not a SW so that seems to work in my favor price wise

    We will be travelling and "living" in it for 3 months+ so its got to be realy comfortable and things like A/C would be nice.

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    More MPG from a 300 than a TD5 as well.
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    Originally posted by Steve RR
    More MPG from a 300 than a TD5 as well.
    How strange, i would have thought a more modern engine would be more efficient...i'm gonna miss my 50-60mpg that i get from my current Tdi!!

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    A 300tdi gives better economy than a TD5 .. ?

    Really .. ?

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    Am I right in thinking the 200tdi is more economical still?

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    I happen to be in the market for a TD5 Defender .. in fact i'm taking one for a test drive this Sat afternoon.
    MPG at worst is quoted at 23 and best 32 !!

    Are 300/200tdi's really returning better mpg than this .. ?

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    Makes you wonder why they are so inefficient compared to ALL other diesels

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    Compairing the spec for both from LR the 300 does 4-5 mpg better IIRC. One of my neighbours changed from a 300 to TD5 90 and said his monthly fuel bill was up by a noticeable jump when he changed.
    Not sure between the 200 & 300, prob not, although the 300 is a few bhp more at 111.
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    Dont suppose there are any good alternatives to the uneconomical LR TDi engines that would easily go into a 110?

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    ''One of my neighbours changed from a 300 to TD5 90 and said his monthly fuel bill was up by a noticeable jump when he changed.''

    Did he go from an older vehicle that was well worn in to a new TD5 engine still tight .. ?
    I have heard that (diesels especially) engines will take a good few thousand miles before setling in to return normal performance.

    Having said all that for me it's all fairly relative anyhow as my first landy was a 109SIII 2.25 which i then dropped a 3.5 V8 into and for the past year i've been knocking around in a 3.9V8 Auto Disco.

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    Slime101 .. I don't think it's that the TDi/TD5 engines are particularly uneconomical ,, think of the wieght that they are lugging,, mechanical loss through the permanent 4wd system,, relatively low gearing and brick like aerodynamics.
    I think that the engines landrover have chosen are ideally suited to the purpose of the vehicle considering what they have to deal with.

    You may get 60mpg from a TDi family saloon but stick that same engine into one of these vehicles and you'll probably struggle to make it off the drive !!!


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    In the month that I`ve owned a new 110 td5, the first tank returned just under 28mpg. I filled up yesterday and its reurning just over 29mpg.
    My previous one was a 200tdi and that would return about 1mpg more at a push.
    Remember that throttle isn`t an on off switch .
    And why rush anywhere, I rarely go above 50/55 on the open road and 60 on a motorway
    1984 V8 110 CSW nicked and burnt out a number of years ago
    1994 200tdi 110 CSW sold to buy a car, big mistake!
    Now back with G4 110

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    Slime....

    Reading between the lines, are you going on an overland trip?

    This could define your choice. In my view if you are heading away go for the 300Tdi. Again in my view the TD5 is a bit complex to repair on route if it goes wrong. Also, again in my view! On a trip the simpler the vehicle the less worry there is, hence I would bin air con as an option - open the windows!!!

    Finally out in the sticks it is easier to get 200 / 300 tdi spares than it is TD5 spares and you will probably find more mechanics who can work on a tdi than the TD.

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