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    The clutch on my td5 has started to slip occasionally, I towed a 2 ton boat the other day and it was fine, another day, accelerate up a hill in 3rd and it will slip.
    Any way my question is what are the symptoms of failure on the dual mass flywheel?
    I don't fancy doing the clutch myself and if I put it in a garage to be done I don't want to get a phone call from the garage halfway though the job saying your flywheel needs changing as well.

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    Default Re: TD5 Dual mass flywheel ?

    Usually juddering and vibrations when gear changing.

    Slipping clutch sounds just like a worn friction plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tight Fart View Post
    The clutch on my td5 has started to slip occasionally, I towed a 2 ton boat the other day and it was fine, another day, accelerate up a hill in 3rd and it will slip.
    Any way my question is what are the symptoms of failure on the dual mass flywheel?
    I don't fancy doing the clutch myself and if I put it in a garage to be done I don't want to get a phone call from the garage halfway though the job saying your flywheel needs changing as well.
    You can buy solid flywheels instead of duel mass ones if you need it changing,not sure where from but I have seen them though and there cheaper than duel mass flywheels. Don't know how it would drive with a solid one though. I'm sure somebody will know if it's worth fitting a solid one or not. I'm guessing you would get more vibration through the car though.

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    You have to fit a complete clutch kit as the DM centre plate doesn't have springs, the DM does that.

    Funnily though, Rovers now use a sprung hub centreplate in a DM flywheel, strange that.

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    Templ4r are you saying I can't fit a clutch without doing the flywheel?

    I was asking about the symptoms as now and again I get a noise when coming of the clutch pedal that sounds like a couple of springs rattling in a tube!

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    there are two checks with a DM 1. rotationl play no more than 25mm (hold flywheel and try to turn it should move no more that the 25mm). 2. Horizontal play no more than 7mm try to push the flywheel sideways play no more than 7mm)

    If both are ok then the DM is fine. this is because the flywheel is in two halfs one inside the other with springs to absorb vibration. when worn you get access play.

    Look on ebay if you need one I got a LUK dm and clutch for 270 for a freelander so not too bad but they are normaly about 5-600
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    hey fella - i'm having the same sort of discussion on the disco 2 thread section - i've researced lots of prices and parts - take a look on that. rick.
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    Default Re: TD5 Dual mass flywheel ?

    If was my car....

    Standard or mildy tuned, not excessive towing etc etc...

    I'd fit a OEM standard dual mass flywheel, with a Valeo or AP clutch. If your having the clutch done, I think it's false ecomony to not do the dual mass flywheel at the same time. Especially if the mileage is 50,000 plus.

    Do it properly, and do it once. No point paying labour twice if you only change the clutch.

    I'd also do the crank seal at the same time if there is any sign of oil.


    On something tuned (Stage 2+) , or if you do a lot of towing - I'd normally fit a solid flywheel and an uprated clutch (which one depends on vehicle usage and spec). But, as a customer you need to decide what you want. I have 2x Td5 with 230bhp + and they are still running a standard dual mass and clutch.

    With a solid flywheel you will get a chatter in neutral when the clutch isn't depressed. The chatter is normally taken out by the dual mass flywheel. How bad that chatter is... well, depends on the vehicle, and condition of the gearbox/transmission.

    One some Td5's it is hardly noticeable, other it's like a stone in a biscuit tin.

    I'll post some more info later, as off out...

    With forum discount, I can probably supply parts cheaper than most....


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    Default Re: TD5 Dual mass flywheel ?

    Porny thanks for advice, drop me a p.m when you can please regarding your price on dual mass as you're local, f.y.i i've ordered the valeo 3 part clutch kit from paddocks 108 total with delivery for monday (car to be worked on tues a.m) so i had to go for it. craddock wanted 121.82 for same (they local i could fetch) paddock want 300 all in for flywheel delivered but i don't know if i need one yet so that was a bit of a ball ache, however craddock have them in stock at 299.23 all in so i can pick one up if needed, i understand you saying best to change while out but it's a lot of cash if the dual mass appears ok..... my disco has been re-mapped but by previous owner so don't know how much by? also i tow rarely and drive quite sensibly due to the price of derv.....it's a risk that i need to take based on the state of the dual mass fitted..i did look into the solid replacement but all in it isnt that much difference price wise and plus that it was britpart....nuff said.
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